Maple Cabinets, Staircase, base trim [Archive]

Steve Clardy

10-31-2006, 11:55 PM

Here's my current whole house cabinet, staircase, trim out job I have going.
Cabinets have been in the shop for about a month now. Delivered them yesterday.
Went to install today, and they didn't have all the bath walls painted yet, kitchen electric for dishwasher wasn't done. One floor vent hadn't been changed yet. Floor vents are under the cabinets, which I have to cut the toe kicks out for vent covers. One floor vent was going to be under the dishwasher, so told them they had to move that one.
So with the kitchen being not ready, and only one bath area ready, I started to install one vanity and a towel cabinet in there. Got everything marked for the water lines, drains, then-----------I discovered I had brought every tool except my drill.:mad:

I decided it was a wasted trip, so came back home to get ready to leave early in the morning for a funeral.
Maple ply and lumber.
Minwax stain, a mixture of 3 to 1 Early American and Red Mahogany.

I also have the staircase, all base trim to stain, finish, and install.
Build two adjoining cabinets next to a gas fireplace.
Build a fireplace mantel.
Make all the window sills.
A 23' long wall shelf, 12' up in the entrance to the great room, plus some other stuff.
Probably take me another month to wrap this job up.

I have the island stained, finished now, but not delivered.

Frank Chaffee

11-01-2006, 12:06 AM

Richard Wolf

11-01-2006, 12:09 AM

Nice work my friend!

Richard

Jim Hager

11-01-2006, 12:18 AM

You haven't got those put in yet??? They look good though my friend. Payday is gettin close now since the delivery is made.

Steve Clardy

11-01-2006, 12:35 AM

More pics. My storage area for completed cabinets was getting a tad full.
All lower and upper kitchen cabs, vanity's, laundry room cabs, crown molding [I run my own crown and trim] are now delivered to the new home.

Thursday, I'll return and install everything.:D

Steve Clardy

11-01-2006, 12:40 AM

You haven't got those put in yet??? They look good though my friend. Payday is gettin close now since the delivery is made.

It's been one delay after another. The client took three weeks to decide on the stain color, after I had made most all of the boxes.
Then the house was to be ready last thursday. Then this monday. Then today. Oh well. It gives me time to build the built in wall cabinets, mantel, etc.
I've been trying to get Her to pick out a stair handrail and balistor design She likes, so I can can them ordered, stained, etc.
She's dragging Her feet.:( :rolleyes: :)

Jesse Cloud

11-01-2006, 02:10 PM

Jim Hager

11-01-2006, 02:47 PM

It's been one delay after another. The client took three weeks to decide on the stain color, after I had made most all of the boxes.
Then the house was to be ready last thursday. Then this monday. Then today. Oh well. It gives me time to build the built in wall cabinets, mantel, etc.
I've been trying to get Her to pick out a stair handrail and balistor design She likes, so I can can them ordered, stained, etc.
She's dragging Her feet.:( :rolleyes: :)

Once in a while you get one like that.:( I have had some projects in my shop for quite a while. Like the entertainment center that I just recently completed. I started it more than 2 months ago. That one was my fault for moving it back in the schedule trying to take care of other things first. Seems like one of those kinds of projects kinda plagues my shop at least once or twice a year. I've got about 400 ft of walnut in the shop right now that I can't seem to get the guy to come get. I planned it last spring and jointed one edge and he still hasn't come to get it yet or paid me for my work. I saw him this morning at the cafe and just gave him one of those impatient looks, he knew exactly what was meant by that scowl.:p I sorta need the floor space if you know what I mean.

tod evans

11-01-2006, 03:16 PM

cool! bet you`re ready for a check?......did ya` turn or buy the legs? lookin` good....tod

joe blankshain

11-01-2006, 11:10 PM

The word for this thread today is WOW. Great work and something to be proud of.

Jay Lock

11-02-2006, 12:10 PM

Steve

Looks great, can't wait to see pics of the finished installation

Jay

Stuart Ablett

11-02-2006, 12:18 PM

Steve Clardy

11-02-2006, 01:52 PM

Great looking cabinets Steve. Good thing you have a large storage area:p

Is that a micro-fence jig in the pic where you are routing the flutes?

Hope the foot dragging doesn't mean she's rethinking something.

How do you find time to do all that and post to Family Woodworking???

Jesse. Thats PC's router guide. I do have the micro jig, for a 7310 router.
And just this year, I got the adpator for the 690 router. Haven't used it yet on the 690.

Time? I find myself screwing off more than working anymore:o

Steve Clardy

11-02-2006, 01:54 PM

cool! bet you`re ready for a check?......did ya` turn or buy the legs? lookin` good....tod

I bought those tod. Found myself getting a little rushed on this job, as I have another cabinet job to start.
I do normally turn those. Those two buggers were $212.00:eek:

Steve Clardy

11-02-2006, 01:56 PM

Looks really good Steve, I sure hope you get it done soon, that looks like a lot of work, and a nice fat cheque should be waiting for you at some point!

You shop looks a little dark, could just be the camera etc, but I was wondering, how much lighting do you have in there?

Cheers!

Its dark on that side Stu. I haven't ever completed my lightning system on that side of the shop.
About 10-12 more 8 footers ought to finish lightning it up.
One thing that doesn't help in my shop, I have no ceiling yet. Exposed trusses. I loose a lot of light due to that.
One of these days, I'll get a ceiling put in.

Steve Clardy

11-03-2006, 02:43 PM

Wow Steve,
Ten attached pics in one post!!!
I'm impressed!

Frank Chaffee

[EDIT]: Sorry Steve, in my haste yesterday evening I neglected to say that those cabinets look pretty nice. I'm starting to think that you may actually know what you're doing.

Lol. I try to make everyone at least think I know what I'm doing;)

Had a good day yesterday on installation.
All the bath vanitys, towel cab installed. Had to stop and have one water line moved.
Got started in the kitchen with the lower cabs.
Going back today. With any luck, I'll have all the lower and uppers installed.
Painter were in my way yesterday. They were doing touchups.

Sitting here waiting on a material delivery for the staircase, and another cabinet job. I can't leave here till the material comes.:(

Steve Ash

11-03-2006, 03:23 PM

Looks real good Steve, but then that is what we have come to expect from your work.

Steve Clardy

11-05-2006, 09:52 PM

Insallation went well friday afternoon, 1:30 to 5:00

Will install crown molding monday, or at least that's the current plan;)

Steve Clardy

11-05-2006, 10:03 PM

More pics

Chris Mire

11-06-2006, 05:06 PM

Steve Clardy

11-06-2006, 05:32 PM

hi steve

cabinets look great. if i may ask a question about the corner section of the kitchen. what is the reason for setting the front of the corner cabinet back from the front of the other cabs? i have never seen it done this way and i was just curious if it was a functional reason or if it was design driven.

thanks
chris

Thats a new way to deal with corner sinks.
My first one like this. I had quite a time figuring out how, what size sink cab to make there. :o Ended up to be a 30" sink box, instead of the usual 36". Sink, countertops will be corian type counters.

Why it is done this way, is to not have all that wasted, hard to reach countertop space behind the sink. Plus the fact there is a kitchen window there.

Chris Mire

11-06-2006, 05:40 PM

Steve Clardy

11-06-2006, 05:51 PM

thanks steve

i figured it must have something to do with functionality. thanks for the quick reply.

another question for ya, how do you keep from getting burns in your stop flutes? i believe i read earlier you were using a router for this. i have never been able to do them without burns at the entry and exit points. if you get them, do you have a good method of removing them, this is also something i haven't had much luck with.

thanks
chris

Lol. Burns marks on stopped flutes. Its touch and go sometimes.
Almost impossible to avoid.
The large panels by the sink were with a router and guide.
First pass I start, stop, an inch or so in.
Then back up to the start point,which will be climb cutting. It helps, but doesn't stop all of the burns.

I use a dremel tool to lightly sand out the burn marks on lighter colored wood. Darker wood, like these stained maples, the burn marks don't show up much.

Chris Mire

11-07-2006, 10:59 AM

I use a dremel tool to lightly sand out the burn marks on lighter colored wood. Darker wood, like these stained maples, the burn marks don't show up much.

that's a good idea. too bad i don't have one. might be a good excuse for one though....:D

Steve Clardy

11-08-2006, 01:39 AM

Went over this morning and got the crown on the uppers finished up.
Installed all the shelving, scrib strips.
Toe kicks cut out for floor vents, and installed.
Kitchen is ready for the tile installer, and corian installer, and plumber.

So I'll be back here in the shop for the rest of the week.
Staining, finishing 1500 of base molding.
Making 18 maple window sills.
Pre cutting and finishing 16 risers and treads.
Stair toe boards, trim, etc.
Making tread bull nosing.
Making two built-in living room cabinets, and a mantel

Stuart Ablett

11-08-2006, 04:13 AM

Boy does that crown dress them nice cabs up! :D

Great job, I bet the clients are pleased! :)

tod evans

11-08-2006, 11:22 AM

steve, i like your sink solution, the jobs lookin` good! tod

Chris Mire

11-08-2006, 11:31 AM

looking better and better

steve, what are the guides for the pullouts mounted to?

thanks
chris

Steve Clardy

11-08-2006, 01:59 PM

looking better and better

steve, what are the guides for the pullouts mounted to?

thanks
chris

Chris. Those are a set of stands that I purchase from HDL Wholesale.
Any slide will attach to them.
They carry 1", 1-1/4, and 2" widths.

I can get you the part # if interested.

Most of them out there are around $40.00 per cabinet. So I usually made mine. But these are around $12.00, by the box of 20, so I purchase these now. Very easy to install.

Chris Mire

11-08-2006, 03:51 PM

yes very interested, until now i have always just made wooden pieces to mount them to. however, what kind of clearance do they allow for? I typically use Blum 120 hinges for doors, and i usually build my pullouts so that they fit inside the outer most part of the hinges. i think this is usually about 1-1/2" from the inside of the frame.

i am sure those would be quicker and might look cleaner than the wooden ones i do.

thanks again
chris

Steve Clardy

11-08-2006, 04:36 PM

I use salice hinges, so I need a 1/2" clearance for the pullout from the inside of FF.

Heres the HDL link.
http://hdlusa.com/

They also have a retail site.

Chris Mire

11-08-2006, 05:02 PM

thanks a bunch steve.

chris

Steve Clardy

11-17-2006, 12:57 AM

Got all the base molding and window sills with crown finished in the shop.
So I loaded everything and delivered to the big house project.

Installed 18 maple windows sills w/ crown, and 4 without crown.

Tile installer had the kitchen area all tiled, but not grouted.
So no base molding was installed today :(

Two of these pics are in the sun room of the house, off the kitchen.

Sun room end is sittings on piers. Notice the window sill that the painters missed :( getting the wall finished under the sill. See any sag in the floor and window? :eek:

Just eyeballing it, I think it has sagged about an inch. Wonder how much glass is going to pop when they have to jack it up :huh:

$400,000 house with a sagging floor :dunno:

tod evans

11-17-2006, 10:55 AM

sagging floors and drywall arches:eek: ........at least the wood looks good!

Steve Clardy

11-20-2006, 02:50 AM

Tomorrows plan is to deliver the finished risers and treads [maple].

Install a 23' wall shelf in the entry hall where the wall went from a 6" wall to a 4" wall upstairs.
Then hopefully the tile installer got all the tile down and grouted so I can get some baseboard done. 1500' of base, 4 1/4 base with 1 1/4 upper trim on top of the base, with lots of corners, is going to take a few days.

Steve Clardy

11-24-2006, 11:37 PM

Went to the house wednesday planning on installing a LOT of base.
The doors were to be all hung. But---------------------:(
They were there installing the doors.

So after working around them for four hours, I moved the Island into place from the living room where I had it stored till the tile guy got the kitchen done. He did have the grouting all done, and somewhat left a mess of my base cabinets.:( So------------------------------

I just packed up and came home.
Maybe next week will go better.

Chris Mire

11-27-2006, 07:26 PM

Steve Clardy

11-27-2006, 07:41 PM

looking great steve. the job is coming along nicely.

i was wondering about the doors for these cabinets. did i miss a mention of it in this thread. are you doing them last? are you outsourcing them? maybe they are built and sitting in your shop. sorry if i missed something.

thanks
chris

Hi Chris.
I'm saving the doors to do till last, which I usually do with most jobs.
I have base and trim, a staircase, couple of living room cabinets, fireplace mantel, etc, to do yet.
I usually try to get done what is necessary, get everything functioning, in case the homeowners decide to move in on top of me before I get completely done. I've had that to happen before.
Moving furniture and unloading kitchen drawers to put hardware on isn't my bag.;)

I always leave the doors to last. Just me :huh: :dunno: :D

Oh. Doors will be Raised panel, straight top rails.

Chris Mire

11-27-2006, 08:04 PM

steve,

i agree that doors should definitely be last. especially if what you mentioned happening has happened before. nothing like trying to work with the homeowner on top of you and all their stuff in your way.

looking forward to seeing the finished product.

thanks
chris

Robert Schaubhut

11-27-2006, 11:49 PM

Hey Steve,
You have a lot of nice work there to be proud of, but it really sucks when you need to follow a sequence like 'base after doors set' and the people setting the doors are not done when they are supposed to be. That lack of coordination in a big job like yours can take the fun out of it especially if you have been serious and done your job as expected and on time. Hang in there, and good sleeping.
Shaz

Steve Clardy

11-28-2006, 01:07 AM

Yep. Thats right Robert. I showed up wednesday after dinner expecting doors to be hung. After working around the installer, changing rooms to many times, not really getting anything done, I just packed and came home.

Paul B Cresti

11-28-2006, 01:25 AM

Sagging floors & walls! OOPs did someone forget to design in the finished floor material to the beam/floor joist spans?? Boy those architects are sure clueless ;) ....beautiful work Steve

Steve Clardy

11-28-2006, 01:36 AM

Sagging floors & walls! OOPs did someone forget to design in the finished floor material to the beam/floor joist spans?? Boy those architects are sure clueless ;) ....beautiful work Steve

I actually talked to the homeowner/ contractor about that sagging floor the other day. Mainly so if they got under there and jacked it up, and my base popped off, it wasn't my problem.

He told me the sun room wasn't in the plans originally, it was an afterthought.:eek: So there wasn't and engineering there, just barn :eek: framing.

He said he planned to pour footing, then use concrete blocks and wall it up underneath.
This, to me, should have been done before they laid the floor joists. But:dunno:

Paul B Cresti

11-28-2006, 03:06 AM

:eek: holy smokes! I am not going to even begin to comment on that....get done with that install, take your pictures and RUN!

Steve Clardy

01-13-2007, 11:27 PM

Been a while since I have updated this whole house job.

I had to order more base and cap, as the homeowner didn't estimate enough. Got that in 2 days ago.

Had my wife stain the base today.

While she was at it, I decided to have her stain all the staircase parts that have been here for weeks.

Shown are 52 balistors, 4 newel posts, and 2 14' handrails.

Stain mix is the same as the base and kitchen cabinets. 3 parts early american, 1 part red mahogany.

I think my wife did a bangup job for her first time spraying stain.:thumb:

Just as a cost perspective on stairs, those parts shown in my finish room total $3500.00 and some pennies.
The newels were $364.00 each. If I would have had the time, I would have made those. But-------------------

Thanks for looking

Robert Schaubhut

01-14-2007, 06:48 PM

Hi Steve,
Your "helper" made a dent in that staining. It does look like she did a good job spraying. Having her help as with Denise over with Marty, not all the time, but when they do it's like Manna from heaven and the elves came to help the cobbler make shoes, if you know what I mean. Good to see some paying production coming out :thumb: .Look forward to that installation and mantle you intend to build. Post when you feel like it.:wave: Bye for now,
Shaz

larry merlau

01-17-2007, 10:08 PM

now you got two choice's you can say man that was great and let her go back the kitchen or you can say man that was really nice to have you help out and have new reasonible helper full time:) now that would relate to more time for you to have some fun time doing what ever you like. oh an dthanks for th great idea in your finishing room.. i donty miss much you sly fellar:D

Reg Mitchell

01-21-2007, 07:57 AM

Hi Steve. Very nice work you do. I am glad to see your back up and running......and it seems you are indead running as much as you have done on the house.
I love the idea of the staining racks. You are indeed a craftsman.
Reg :thumb:

Steve Clardy

02-10-2007, 11:11 PM

Been a while since I've made an update here.

Staircase in almost finished. I worked furiously thursday and friday installing the shoes, rails, balistors, and trim.
Today I ran the bullnosing for the treads on the molder. Am staining and finishing now. I will install these tomorrow and take pics.:)

Also today I have started the mantel for the gas fireplace insert.

Heres the hunk of maple for the top of mantel. I've found two pics that I like. Think I'm going with the one with legs.

Mantel is going to be about ten inches deep, 73" long, and about 10 tall.
Double crown molding under the slab of maple.
Maple slab is 2 3/8" thick. That ought to be a two person job slinging this baby up on the wall.

Steve Clardy

02-10-2007, 11:48 PM

Slab is ripped to width, cut to length.
Heres the profile I am going to run on the bottom side edge. This is actually a table edge bit.
Bit is mounted in my big honking D-handle router.

Ed Nelson

02-11-2007, 12:33 AM

Looking good Steve! :thumb:

Steve Clardy

02-11-2007, 01:04 AM

Ok. Bottom profile edge is routed. Mantel top is laying upside down here.
Swinging this big honking router this evening got me wound up. Got my thrill tonight:eek: :D

Going in and crashing. I'm pooped;)

Robert Schaubhut

02-11-2007, 01:35 AM

Hi Steve, :wave:
Nice job on that big hunk of 10/4, bet it was a pleasure working that fine piece of wood.
Happy to see your progress and like the choice with " legs ".
Shaz :)

Steve Clardy

02-13-2007, 12:51 AM

Mantel is about done. Used some leftover crown from the cabinets, thats why the red streak ;)

What ya think?

Steve Clardy

02-13-2007, 01:04 AM

Finished up the staircase yesterday. Installed all the bullnosing, filled some nail holes, etc.
Had a mad moment when I got to the house.:(
The carpet layers sweep all the trash down onto the steps from upstairs:(

Deep breath, clean them up, and get to work.

Steve Clardy

02-13-2007, 01:05 AM

One more pic...

Robert Schaubhut

02-13-2007, 01:51 AM

Finished up the staircase yesterday. Installed all the bullnosing, filled some nail holes, etc.
Had a mad moment when I got to the house.:( You know Steve, it breaks my heart to see this common disrespect for the work we do, but you know it too, they don't know any better. All we can do is clean it up and go on, they meant no disrespect for you, hopefully someday, before we choke the little B%&$#@*S :rofl: (my acronym for sweepers that don't sweep up, they sweep down):D they will come to appreciate a craftsman's work.
The carpet layers sweep all the trash down onto the steps from upstairs:(

Deep breath, clean them up, and get to work. Best thing you could do.:thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

One more pic...
Hi Steve :wave: ,
You have a beautiful piece of work there, with those stairs. That balastrade is very, very nice, treads and all are very appealing to the eye.
Congratulations,
Shaz
Now let me ask, what do you think about the mantle so far? :rolleyes:

Steve Clardy

02-13-2007, 01:55 AM

Mantel. Hmmm. It needs something else on the bottom. Not sure though.
I got half a mind to call it done. Maybe I'm getting lazy this evening.:o
I've got it in the finish room. Stained.

Robert Schaubhut

02-13-2007, 03:25 AM

Mantel. Hmmm. It needs something else on the bottom. Not sure though.
I got half a mind to call it done. Maybe I'm getting lazy this evening.:o
I've got it in the finish room. Stained.
Hi Steve, :wave:
As you mention something else on the bottom, I am seeing the mantle getting smaller and smaller from top to bottom in three visually equal parts, as seen in the second photo. Could you add more below the bead on the same level as that above the bead, maybe flat, same plane as above the existing bead then add another bead but this one is sticking out beyond the new flat face? I did a little drawing to explain an idea but if you left it as is, I think you still have a winner:thumb: Remember my ideas are just suggestions, and your thoughts are as good as mine.
4667 Rest well, you have done good.:)
Shaz

tod evans

02-13-2007, 12:34 PM

lookin` good steve! i vote for the astrigal on the bottom of the mantle...tod

Steve Clardy

02-13-2007, 02:06 PM

Hey hey. Yes Shaz. We are on the same page looks like.
Yesterday I was thinking of just maybe another 3/4 board down there.
Rounded over both edges, protruding past the bottom, say maybe 1/2" or so. I'll dwell on that, and I like the added flat drop down after the bead detail.:D
I like the bottom drawing better.
I'll dwell on that today.
I am switching back to the Oak kitchen cabinet job today.
I have two customers on my tail, trying to do two jobs at once.

Chris Mire

02-13-2007, 03:53 PM

steve

things are looking great. keep up the good work. stairs are something i don't think i could tackle. so i admire you for being able to do that and do it well.

question on staining that maple. do you have problems with the maple blotching with the dark stains? if so how do you combat this? i like using maple, but i can never get it to stain right. :huh:

thanks much
chris

Steve Clardy

02-13-2007, 04:04 PM

Blotching is a problem usually with maple.
But not too much with this job.
Customer likes the differences in color. ;) :thumb:
So I haven't worried about it.

Past experiences, I usually let the stain dry for 10-20 minutes, then just go over the lighter areas again.

Steve Clardy

02-21-2007, 04:56 PM

Ok. Back on the maple job.
I have been doing the oak cabinets [two different jobs going], got those people satisfied for a while.
Now the customers with the maple cabs, staircase are starting to holler:o
[Oh Steve, where are you:huh: ]

Bottom of mantel, with everyones input, I milled a 5/8x2 piece and attached to the lower part of the mantel. Much better :thumb:

Headed back to the finish room to finish the stain.

Chris Mire

02-21-2007, 05:18 PM

looks great steve.

hopefully those customers remember you had a major set back and understand it's taking some time to get caught up. but being busy is a good thing i guess, at least it means money is on the way.

C

Rob Bodenschatz

02-21-2007, 05:34 PM

I think I'm going to have to steal the idea of your corner sink configuration. I've got an issue in my shop where the space where my sink is going is a bit cramped:

http://familywoodworking.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2344&d=1166826201

Doing it your way looks like it might help solve that problem. Thanks Steve!

Steve Clardy

02-21-2007, 07:43 PM

Chris Mire

02-22-2007, 03:47 PM

steve,

i was just looking at and admiring your mantle. wondering if that big boy weighs alot. how do you intend to mount it to the wall?

thanks
C

Steve Clardy

02-22-2007, 05:31 PM

Yea. Its probably 40 pounds now.:eek:

Luckily I was there in the house before the drywall went up.
I usually try to be if they call me early enough.
We discussed staircase, cabinets, mantel placement, etc.
I had the builder hang a couple of 2x4's on the wall studding for mantel attachment.
I will just level them with shims, hang the mantel, and put a couple of large screws through the mantel down into the 2x's.

I also had him put blocking on all the walls for hanging upper cabinets.
2x8's between all the studs at a certain height. Makes for easy cabinet hanging. No hunting for the studs.:thumb:

Look to the left of pic where mantel goes

Chris Mire

02-22-2007, 06:17 PM

that's a good idea steve, doubt i'd be able to get builders to do that for me, especially the part for the uppers. of course most times the walls aren't painted around here so i can see where the screws were mudded on the drywall.

gonna look great when it's all in

C

Steve Clardy

02-22-2007, 06:34 PM

Sometimes you have to pick them builders hammers up and speak to them with it. :eek: ;) :D

Chris Mire

02-22-2007, 08:01 PM

:D

one of them is a good friend, he would do it for me. but the problem is remembering to ask :huh:

Steve Clardy

02-23-2007, 06:48 PM

Mantel is done, finished as of yesterday.

Today is--build the upper ET=Bookcase cabinets that go in the living room, one each side of the mantel.

Custom run fluted stile's by-----Me:D ----- on my ol belsaw.

One down, one to go, plus the shelving. Then stain and finish :thumb: :D

No cabinet backs, She wants the wall exposed. :huh: :dunno:

Robert Schaubhut

02-24-2007, 01:50 AM

Mantel is done, finished as of yesterday.The mantle is really nice and one they will enjoy, way to go Dude!

Today is--build the upper ET=Bookcase cabinets that go in the living room, one each side of the mantel.

Custom run fluted stile's by-----Me:D ----- on my ol belsaw. Nice touch :)

One down, one to go, plus the shelving. Then stain and finish :thumb: :D

No cabinet backs, She wants the wall exposed. :huh: :dunno:
Hi Steve, :wave:
It is so close and so nice, the owners must be thrilled. Your work is well done.:thumb: Congrats,
Shaz

Steve Clardy

02-24-2007, 02:11 AM

Thanks Shaz :wave:

Second case is ready for finish almost. A tad more sanding.

Just hauled it's twin out of the finish room. Its done. :thumb:

Tomorrow afternoon will be installing oak laundry cabs [sitting under the maple case on floor].

Sunday, off to install mantel and upper cabs.

Going to be a loooooong weekend.:D

Steve Clardy

02-27-2007, 12:27 AM

Finished up the install on the upper ET-bookcase cabinets and mantel today.:thumb:
Added crown molding to the top of cabinets to finish them off.
Got the mantel hung.
Homeowner was there installing the flat screen TV. Helped him hoist in up there before I left.
Sorry for the somewhat bad pics. Sunlight was coming through the huge living room windows, and just couldn't find a decent spot without shadows.

I think the cabinet would have looked better if the walls above them had been framed in straight across the top of cabinets. That inset on the walls, going clear to the ceiling, just doesn't appeal to me. But thats the way it is----

All I have left on this maple job is about a bazillion cabinet doors. I'm gonna be sick of doors I think:o ;) :D

Paul B Cresti

02-27-2007, 02:19 AM

Steve Clardy

02-27-2007, 02:31 PM

Steve,
from one ugly mug to another, you have done good....;) ( I think i have more hair than you though) I like the proportions of you mantle shelf.....could your clients have hung that TV any higher???? my neck hurts just thinking about it :huh:

Lol. More hair?:huh: :D

I agree on the height. Way too much :huh: :dunno:

The TV had a built in base already. It would have set right on the mantel, not protruding past.
Guess they can buy a couch with ladder? :huh: :dunno: :rofl:

Jerry Olexa

02-27-2007, 06:33 PM

Looking very good, Steve.....good work!!!!

Steve Clardy

03-02-2007, 11:36 PM

On to the cabinet doors.

Theres enough parts laying around here for 54 maple raised panel doors.
I'm sick of doors already :bang:

Got all the parts finshed up this morning. Rails, stiles, panels unclamped, cut to lenght and width, and profiled. :D

My wife sanded all the panels, so I am in the process of assembling doors.

Tomorrow will be assembling, edge sanding, finish sanding, boring holes for euro hinges. Need to get them in to the finish room to start the staining process.

Robert Schaubhut

03-04-2007, 12:39 AM

Hi Steve, :wave:
Your work looks great! Congratulations.
Thanks for the update.
taking on the building, stain and finish, and the install can really drag out a job, but hopefully the money makes the trade fair.
You can do it!!!!!:D :D :thumb:
Shaz

Bill Clinton

03-04-2007, 02:31 PM

I guess that you don't have inspections where you live. That staircase wouldn't pass inspection here. No continuous handrail. Look nice though. Bill

Steve Clardy

03-04-2007, 03:34 PM

I guess that you don't have inspections where you live. That staircase wouldn't pass inspection here. No continuous handrail. Look nice though. Bill

Yes. Noted Bill.
I tried my best to get the builder/homeowner to change the rough construction on the staircase.
The left hand staircase wall should have continued up past the landing upstairs. I saw that problem when bidding the job.
They did not want to move the wall over, nor cut off part of the landing and extend the wall on up.

So that was my only recourse. I thought about placing the upper newel over some, then Z-ing the handrail over for a continous rail. But that would have looked crude, out of place, and make that long hand rail less ridgid.
I also thought about running a another handrail on the right side wall.
That would not have looked in place either.
So.. After several discussions with the owners, telling them they would have three steps without a handrail, they said it go with the way they framed it. So thats what I did.
I didn't really agree with it, but they pays the bill :dunno: :D

There are basically no codes around here. No inspections at all.
There's only one code in our county, and thats a sewer code which is required by the state.

Bill Clinton

03-04-2007, 06:30 PM

Yes. Noted Bill.
I tried my best to get the builder/homeowner to change the rough construction on the staircase.
The left hand staircase wall should have continued up past the landing upstairs. I saw that problem when bidding the job.
They did not want to move the wall over, nor cut off part of the landing and extend the wall on up.

So that was my only recourse. I thought about placing the upper newel over some, then Z-ing the handrail over for a continous rail. But that would have looked crude, out of place, and make that long hand rail less ridgid.
I also thought about running a another handrail on the right side wall.
That would not have looked in place either.
So.. After several discussions with the owners, telling them they would have three steps without a handrail, they said it go with the way they framed it. So thats what I did.
I didn't really agree with it, but they pays the bill :dunno: :D

There are basically no codes around here. No inspections at all.
There's only one code in our county, and thats a sewer code which is required by the state.

Just as a FYI. When Carpenters here encounter a rail that dies into a wall. I will allow them to use a "S" or offset fitting and continue the rail on up the flight.

http://www.cpstairmasters.com/fittings.html

As long as they keep the required 1 1/2" between the wall and the rail it would meet the intent of the code. Bill

Steve Clardy

03-04-2007, 06:39 PM

Yes. That would have let the rail continue on up.:thumb:

Customer did not want it done that way, and I though it would have looked out of place.

I sure wish they would have cut the upper balcony back some, and run the wall on up. But I got no where in trying to get that done.:dunno: :)

Steve Clardy

03-15-2007, 12:01 AM

This job was completed yesterday.
Got paid. Moola is in the bank :thumb:

Now on to finish up a set of Oak cabinets for my sons spec house, and start a set of oak cabinets for a duplex. [2 sets mirrored]

Steve Clardy

03-15-2007, 12:06 AM

More...........

Jim Hager

03-15-2007, 01:12 AM

Ed Nelson

03-15-2007, 01:15 AM

Beautiful work Steve!:thumb: I know you're glad to get the job complete and cash in the bank! I hope you have another in the works.

Greg Cook

03-15-2007, 01:18 AM

Awesome work, Steve. Bet your glad that job is over...not only for the pay, but seems like you had a few "challenges" along the way! :doh:

Steve Clardy

03-15-2007, 03:04 AM

Very nice Steve, didja have any trouble with that maple blowing out when you were planing down the door panels to size?? All the maple I've been getting lately has been really bad about that.

Nice job, very well executed my boy:thumb:

Sure did have some blowouts.

After two blanks, I started surfacing to within a 1/16". then drum sanded them on down. What a pain in the kazoo:(

I hate maple for that:(

Yep Greg. I did have several interruptions during this job.
Lets see. Shop roof. Wrecked truck.

Ugh. I don't want to think about all that on my birthday.;) :D

Steve Clardy

03-15-2007, 03:07 AM

Beautiful work Steve!:thumb: I know you're glad to get the job complete and cash in the bank! I hope you have another in the works.

Yep. I have one oak kitchen I've been doing during this maple one.
I have the pantry room to fill with cabs, then all the zillion oak doors to do for the kitchen, laundry room, and baths.
Kitchen is done except for the crown molding and doors.
Working on the pantry cabs today.

Plus I will start the duplex cabinets tomorrow.
I have a full schedule:D