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    Festool Owners Forum

    Well, it looks like a great forum is gone. Another forum says that Festool Owners Group received a legal letter from Festool asking them to shut the forum down.

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    That's really interesting. I had visitied their a couple of time and found a lot of great info....

    Wonder what Festool legal is thinking? Just the use of Festool ?

    Seems like they would want people talking about their tools?

    Maybe they will be at AWF and we can talk to them.

    Hmmmmmmm.....

    Sometime companies just don't make sense to me......

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    Hopefully this thread won't turn into the "hang'm high" garbage that the tread on that "other forum" turned into. I really can't believe how quick folks are to call in a lynch mob based on one side of the story. There's always two sides to every story, the truth generally lays in the middle some were. I'm sure there is more to this story, hopefully it will come out and more reasonable heads will prevail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M Toupin View Post
    Hopefully this thread won't turn into the "hang'm high" garbage that the tread on that "other forum" turned into. I really can't believe how quick folks are to call in a lynch mob based on one side of the story. There's always two sides to every story, the truth generally lays in the middle some were. I'm sure there is more to this story, hopefully it will come out and more reasonable heads will prevail.

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    Dang...I'll have to go put the pitchforks and torches away.

    I agree though -- it sure looks like the story is being told in more than one version. I suspect some things have gotten blown out of proportion, but in time things will settle back down.
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    Mike, I agree with you about the two sides to the story, and for the FOG group, I know they feel that they have been slighted, and it does really seem strange, but with all the "Lawyering Up" that goes along with daily life in the US, (or at least that is the perception out here in the world), I could think of a lot of reasons that Festool, as a company would need to have FOG go away.

    I'm fairly positive that Festool as a company is not happy about having to do this, I think this is a lose, lose situation, but I'm just as sure that Festool has to look at it as a small loss, compared to a potentially huge loss

    I just hope that something can be worked out, but I have to say, I'm not holding my breath.

    If someone is looking to lay blame somewhere, I'd lay it at the feet of the guy who sued the coffee shop and won for spilling hot coffee on himself, and then complaining that the coffee shop did not explain to him, in writing, that the hot coffee he ordered, was "hot" I'd also blame his lawyer, and the judge who let the case proceed.

    I think the guy running FOG feels he is getting screwed, which is really too bad, but I very much doubt, for all the reasons stated, that Festool took this action lightly, but in the end, the people running Festool have a responsibility to their shareholders and the thousands of employees who work for them, balanced against an online forum, I think I know which way I'd go, if I thought the online forum was a potential legal minefield. I'm not saying FOG is to blame here, it is just the nature of the beast, which sucks.

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    I would suggest reading this... Explains the "rest of the story"...

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    Much as I suspected.
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    I suspect - as is typical in these situations - there is a misquote or misstatement that has run the whole thing aground. Having been in the corporate world long enough, I can see the issues are rather minor, but if not corrected, could have long term detrimental effect on the company.

    It will get sorted out, and hopefully everyone will again be happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Cook View Post
    I would suggest reading this... Explains the "rest of the story"...
    There....THERE!!!

    Did you read THAT???

    Could you read between the lines and just FEEL the vile and spite that oozed out of each and every syllable from the Vice-President himself? How DARE Festool be so selfish?...So hateful?...So...so...hedonistic??? Once again the great, almighty, multi-glom-national corporation has to step in and stomp out the little guy just trying to scratch out a small patch on this global market planet. They should be ASHAMED for trying to make their claims about "PROMOTING" the FOG, their claims of "DONATING" tools for contests and give-a-ways, and how Festool's employees surreptitiously infiltrated the FOG to "ANSWER QUESTIONS" and "CLARIFY ISSUES" while we all know that they were secretly monitoring each and every post for some sign of illicit activity that was designed to try to bring down the great multi-glom-national corporation.

    HOW DARE YOU FESTOOL?...HOW DARE YOU??? How dare you offer to pay hosting fees and name transfer fees and offer to continue to allow the free use of YOUR name for a website that you have no ownership rights to. HOW...CAN...YOU...SLEEP...AT...NIGHT???

    And speaking of the vice-president, who does he think HE is...with his uppity four part name, hmmm? Two or three names, like the rest of us, aren't good enough for a VP of a multi-glom-national corporation, hmmm; You need four???

    Sheesh, you just can't trust anyone anymore these days, huh?













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    Well what I read out of it was, Festool wants some control of the forum. I'm sure I read it wrong, but sounded to me like an end run to have that forum under their control. When companies have these forums, it's theirs. They get to do what they want. I don't see them as big and bad, but as "Let's have control over this as soon as we can". If they offered to do all that "stuff", why would it not be considered, rather than shut the forum down? Makes no sense to me from either side. Trust me we will never know the "whole " truth. That's just business.

    Having said all that gobbly-goo, I owe no Festool products. I would not be able to afford to have a shop if I used their products. No one will ever convince me they are that good, to be 2 to 4 times more $$$$ than any other brand.

    Course all this and $2.50 will get you a Grande at Starbucks.....

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