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    Dumb jig questions

    Newbiee, still learning......until??

    Got this safety issue in my head.

    Have a Dewalt contractor saw that came with flip out of the way plastic guard with kickback pawls. Yes it is a major problem sometimes.

    Then I see that splitters are on sale, and most of you seem to be using them. Considering ordering them along with zero clearence shield.

    Also considering a overhead plastic guard with dust collection, which I have plans for.

    But before I do..........

    So that must mean you have done away your factory safey guards, using splitters. And depending on push blocks (sticks) to avoid kickbacks.

    I got a major kick back awhile back that darn near done me in. (had the guard off) So I tend to tread lightly.

    Had to take the factory guard off the other day and made a temporary splitter. That worked out great, not perfect just great.

    Questions being
    1. What
    2. Why
    3. How
    are you guys working around splitters, vs guards, vs kick back pawls.
    Believe I have answered my own questions, shall see..........

    WoodWorking, Crappie Fishing, Colts, Life is good!

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    hungh?.........most of the time i run my equipment guardless....and i have the scars to prove it .......really it`s all what you become accustomed to and are comfortable with......if something makes you uneasy then fix it! tod
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  3. #3
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    somewhere east of Queen Creek, AZ - South East of Phoenix
    To me the factory guard and splitter on my Jet CS was more dangerouse then running without one. I would like to have a reeving knife and when I figure out how to put on on my saw I will post it here. In the mean time I use push sticks, feather boards and Don't stand in the line of fire. Have there been kickbacks in my shop, Yes. Has anyone been injured by one, No.

    I am planning on some overhear Dust collection when I move the saw to the new shop in a month or so.
    Last edited by Don Baer; 12-15-2006 at 07:19 PM.
    "There’s a lot of work being done today that doesn’t have any soul in it. The technique may be the utmost perfection, yet it is lifeless. It doesn’t have a soul. I hope my furniture has a soul to it." - Sam Maloof
    The Pessimist complains about the wind; The Optimist expects it to change;The Realist adjusts the sails.~ William Arthur Ward

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    Shark Guard

    Just reading up here in the Family woodworking about Shark Guards, maybe this may be my answer to splitters, and guards etc.

    WoodWorking, Crappie Fishing, Colts, Life is good!

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    The Heart of Dixie
    Like most I find guards to be a pain. I make my own throat plates and my own tall splitter. Keep in that what causes kick back and then watch what you do. Learn to work to minimize the chances of it. Thats the biggest part to me.

    Once I finally get to work on DC I want an overhead guard on mine too.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    ABQ NM
    I'm another who doesn't use the factory guard that came with my saw. (Ridgid TS3650) I installed it, but never even did a single cut with it on, since I could tell it would only get in my way, and that's more dangerous to me than having the blade exposed.

    However, I'm a FIRM believer in zero-clearance inserts (a.k.a. throat plates) and splitters. I use the plastic MicroJig splitter and like it a lot. If and when I break it, I'll likely buy their new metal splitter. I also swear by the Grrripper push block system, also from MicroJig. It gives me much better control than any pushsticks I've ever used, and I've used a lot of em' before learning about the Grrripper.

    As Tod said though, what works for one guy feels totally wrong to the next, so I'd say try several different techniques or approaches (being extra aware of anything that feels wrong to you, of course) and decide which devices feel best to you.

    HTH -
    When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. - Hunter S. Thompson
    When the weird get going, they start their own forum. - Vaughn McMillan

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    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Tokyo Japan
    I hear you about the stock blade guard, I tossed the one that came on my DeWalt BT744, but I did keep the part that acts as a splitter with the pawls on it..........

    OK, it is not the easiert thing to remove and replace, but it works fairly well. I have a few shopmade zero clearance inserts too, and one or two have a wooden splitter attached to it.

    The gripper is a great thing, and I guess worth the price, but I always seem to bump it off my list when I go to buy stuff.

    I made one up of my own, it is a piece of 2x6 about 8" long, with a handle on top, then a piece of plywood on the back of it that is attached via slots abd screws, so the plywood can slide down past the back of the block, to act as a hook of sorts, the blade is then buried into the 2x6 on each cut.

    I'll take a pic of it next time I'm in the dungeon, is it no Gripper but it is a lot better than just a push stick, IMHO.

    The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.
    William Arthur Ward

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    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Tokyo Japan
    Well I finally got around to posting the pics of this homemade gripper like thing.....

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    Works like a charm.

    The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.
    William Arthur Ward

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Good idea for a push block, Stuart. I have an extra pair of plastic push blocks laying around somewhere - I'll just attach them to scraps of 2x10.



  10. #10
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Mountain Home, Arkansas
    Simple. Makes eminently good sense.
    BTW, every time I see the title to this thread, I wonder, "Wats a dumb jig?"

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