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Thread: Tail Vise VS Shoulder Vise

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    Tail Vise VS Shoulder Vise

    I am debating whether to install two front vises on my workbench or one front vise and either a tail vise or should vise.

    I dont really understand how to build a vise for the tail vise. Either the vise would have to be offset of the screw or the screw would not allow you to put a piece through the vise.

    What are the advantages to the tail or screw vise?

    What do you guys use the most?
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    Rich, The tail vise is mainly for clamping pieces along the top of the bench. You put a bench dog in the vise and a second in the bench depending on how long piece you are clamping is. Then you squeeze the wood between the dogs. It is great if you hand plane a lot. Turn the dogs around and you can use the vise as a spreader. You don't actually use the wooden jaws of the vise to clamp anything.
    Hope this helps, Don

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    Hey Rich,

    I have a pair of end vises and a face vise. Does end mean tail?

    Anyway, I use the two vises on the right end of my bench all the time. Sometimes at the same time. I rarely use the one on the long side of the bench. I faced the two end vises with HDPE plastic and clamp stuff in the jaws a lot. There is a row of dog holes in line with each vise.

    I don't really remember why I designed it like this back '88, but it has worked out really well for the way I work.

    Think about how you have wished you could hold something and put a vise there. Get the quick release ones. A few bucks more now but it pays mega dividends in less frustration.

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    Just as a contrast I use the face vise more than the tail. I have a "regular" quick release vise in both positions and have found that the preferred vise stems from geographical location more than anything else for me.
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    Here is my take on this. You need both.
    *depending on the type of work you do



    Here is my jointers bench. I find that I use a lot of hand tools and I use the end vice with boards clamped between bench dogs ALL THE TIME! A bench without and end vise and bench dogs would be almost useless to me.
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    Attached are pictures of Frank Klausz's workbench with a shoulder vise (first picture) and a tail vise (second picture). I decided to put a front vise on the end of the bench and put a shoulder vise on the front of the bench.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Shoulder Vise.jpg   Tail Vise.jpg  
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