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    face frames

    What's everybody using for face frame assembly? Are you guys using a slanted assembly tables with the air clamps or just a flat bench?

    Doug
    Last edited by Doug Sinjem; 12-25-2006 at 03:09 PM.

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    Flat bench with deep jaw 10" visegrips. Grips with the swivel pads.
    A C-clamp will also work.

    My bench top overhangs the structure by 3", so I pull the two adjoining pieces over to the overhang, and clamp.

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    If I understand your question correctly, I've switched to using a funky little Krieg jig that consists of a 12" square piece of steel with a one-armed vice clamp that swings around for convenient placement. I much prefer this setup to the old "c" style vice clamp that came with the origninal Krieg jig my dad purchased 10 or so years back.

    Of course (obviously) I don't do this for a living either...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Lyon View Post
    If I understand your question correctly, I've switched to using a funky little Krieg jig that consists of a 12" square piece of steel with a one-armed vice clamp that swings around for convenient placement. I much prefer this setup to the old "c" style vice clamp that came with the origninal Krieg jig my dad purchased 10 or so years back.

    Of course (obviously) I don't do this for a living either...

    Looking for input on how the whole frame is put together. I'm assuming most people are using pocket screw construction. I've seen slanted assembly tables with air clamps to hold in place and keep everything square. Looks like they start at $2,500.

    I would like to hear input if anyone has one of these tables and if not what process is being used to say assemble all the frames for a complete kitchen. My guess would be a flat bench/torsion box and bar/pipe clamps to hold everything square while the pocket screws are installed.

    Doug

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    Doug,
    I don't use pocket screws. When I do face frames I use half lap joints, square the pieces on a flat table and just put a single screw in the back to act as a clamp while the glue dries. Fast and easy.
    "There’s a lot of work being done today that doesn’t have any soul in it. The technique may be the utmost perfection, yet it is lifeless. It doesn’t have a soul. I hope my furniture has a soul to it." - Sam Maloof
    The Pessimist complains about the wind; The Optimist expects it to change;The Realist adjusts the sails.~ William Arthur Ward

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    Are you doing this (or planning to) commercially? I ask this because if so, then I'm sure its a whole 'nother ballgame. My experience is limited to doing two kitchens and numerous bathroom vaniety's.

    As far as "squareness" goes, any simple flat surface should work just fine. If you've made your cuts square or 90 degrees, the screw will pull the two surfaces together perfectly. The challange, in my experience, is getting the two surfaces "flat". That's what I assumed you were alluding to in your post.

    One of the advantages to pocket screw joinery in my opinion is that if you're unsatisfied with the results, it's easy enough to simply redo it.

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    Steve Clardy Guest
    Heres my pocket cutter.

    Trying to find pics of my clamping system. They seemed to have evaporated
    Last edited by Steve Clardy; 10-20-2007 at 05:29 PM.

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    Steve,

    Here are some more....of the cutter.

    http://familywoodworking.org/forums/...0&postcount=16

    Greg

    Are these some of ones you were looking for of the clamping system?
    Last edited by Greg Cook; 09-13-2009 at 03:46 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Cook View Post
    Steve,

    Here are some more....of the cutter.

    http://familywoodworking.org/forums/...0&postcount=16

    Greg

    Are these some of ones you were looking for of the clamping system?
    Yes. Those are some older pics I believe I posted on smc.
    My old pc machine, and when I was using a c-clamp instead of vise grips.
    Thanks Greg.

    I've got some updated pics somewhere

    Probably in a folder I haven't found yet

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    Hi Doug, I have the Kreg Framing Table, and it works perfectly, it is expensive but if you do alot of face frames, it is the fastest and most accurate way to join face frames, thanks

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