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Thread: Buying new router. Tips wanted.

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Almelo, Holland

    Buying new router. Tips wanted.

    First I have to say hello to all.
    I'm new here. Maybe my English is not so good, sorry for that.

    I'm planning to buy my first (!) router. I like to have some simple tips from you craftsmen. Ofcourse I can find detailed information on the internet, but I like to have some tips from experienced woodworkers. That's why I post this thread/question.

    I want to use the router up side down on a router-table.


    1. Do I need a minimum of Watt's?
    2. Is the 6, 8 or 12 mm important?
    3. Can I use every plunge-router up-side-down?

    I have searched the forum for answers but couldn't find.
    So far, thanks for your help!

    Greetings from Bas, Holland.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    hi bas!
    no advice on brands,(i have no idea what`s available in holland!)
    use the largest shank bits available in your router(s) all the time.
    [SIZE="1"] associated with several importers and manufacturers.[/SIZE]

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Nov 2006

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    Welcome Bas!

    1. For table use, more power is usually better....I'd go with at least an 11 amp motor (~1-3/4 hp).... 13 amp (2-1/4 hp) and 15 amp (3+ hp) is better yet. In my opinion, variable speed is more important than power. You'll need to reduce the RPM of the router when you spin really large bits like a panel raising bit.

    2. The collet and shank sizes we use here are usually 1/4" and 1/2". The larger shanks offer more strength and less vibration, so I'd go with the 12mm shanks whenever possible.

    3. Yes you can use a plunge router in a table but it's not required. In fact, there are many who prefer a fixed based router for table mounting. It's really a matter of preference (or what router you have)

    I'm not sure what brands are available to you, but here there are several good brands readily available....Milwaukee, Porter Cable, Bosch, DeWalt, Freud, Hitachi, Makita, and Triton to name a few. Above table features like above table bit changes and above table height adjustment are nice conveniences but not required. I've had good experiences with a Milwaukee 5625 and Freud FT1700 in the router table. My Bosch 1617, Hitachi M12VC, and smaller Milwaukee would all do well in a router table too. Find a deal on one that you like, and save enough money to buy some good basic bits.

    Good luck!
    Got Wood?

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Delton, Michigan
    welcome bas, cant add to there info,, other than you will need some hold downs or feather boards as well..and if you do raised panels ,,"bad dog' sells a panel clamp that makes doing raised panels safer and better outcome.
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  5. #5
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Pretoria, South Africa
    Hi Bas!

    Baie welkom hier, hoop jy geniet dit!

    For table use I recommend 1/2" and for hand held 1/4". 1/2" is normally very heavy, and kills you if you have to hold it for to long. But, 1/2" normally comes with collets so that you could use either of the three sizes.

    Also check that you get variable speed, something like the makita 3612C is a very nice router

    Uys van Rooyen
    Pretoria, South Africa

    Uys is pronounced "Ace" - it's Dutch

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    No, not all of SoCal is Los Angeles!
    Good advice here so far, Bas. Since it is your first router I would recommend a plunge as they are more versatile if you are only going to have one for awhile. Go with the 12mm shank. Larger shanks are preferred and you can always use a reducer or second collet for smaller bits.

    I am not real clear on how to convert our "magical" router horsepower ratings to your watts as I am unclear on the exact voltage and Hz you run. Let's just say the more power the better EXCEPT when you get to the point where the router is difficult to handle free hand. I am not a large person so once I get to about 7 kilos of weight in a router, I am going to start to have control issues unless I am using it flat and gravity is helping me. I do have a massive dedicated route in my table but, that came later.
    Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
    - Arthur C. Clarke

  7. #7
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Kansas City, Missouri
    Nothing to offer that hasn't been said, but welcome to the family Bas!

    To a small child, the perfect granddad is unafraid of big dogs and fierce storms but absolutely terrified of the word “boo.” – Robert Brault

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    ABQ NM
    I also have no additional advice to offer, but I wanted to say hello and welcome to the forum, Bas.

    And no worries about your English...there are some Americans here who could probably use an English lesson from you.
    When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. - Hunter S. Thompson
    When the weird get going, they start their own forum. - Vaughn McMillan

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Welcome to the family Bas.

    I've taken notes of what have been said as I'm planning to build a router table myself (one of these days), so hung around and remember we love pics!
    Best regards,

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  10. #10
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Santa Clara, Calif.
    Quote Originally Posted by glenn bradley View Post
    Good advice here so far, Bas.
    I am not real clear on how to convert our "magical" router horsepower ratings to your watts as I am unclear on the exact voltage and Hz you run.
    <snip again>
    Pardon a "newbie" here, but the magical formula is 746 watts = 1 hp. (That is, if my gray hairs aren't clouding my memory.)

    1 hp = 750 watts
    2 hp = 1,500 watts
    3 hp = 2,250 watts
    (rounded off)

    I hope this helps dispell the "magic".

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