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    Notice Anything Different???

    As some may know, I had to take a break from posting to my Shop Thread last Thursday, because some "In a Big Hurry" fellow, had reconfigured the Graceful lines and shiny appearance of the LOML's car. Thought I'd post these to see if you could notice the difference.
    The first pic is the car and the LOML and our friendly Ford Salesman. the other pics are of the reconfiguration. Since the LOML prefers the original "Look", she has gotten some bids for the Re-Do, and WOW, I guess it's been longer than I realized since I priced Body Work, since the First Bid was $9,220 (from the best quality Body Shop in town), and then two others that do pretty good work also came in at$6,778 and $6,579 respectively, and all three stated that there would be additional charges for any damages found after teardown, and also for any glass that was broken during teardown. I'm sure glad we don't have to buy new cars part by part.

    Well, I seem to have a problem with the file the pics with the damage are in, so will edit this later and add them when I get the problem fixed.Click image for larger version. 

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    Last edited by Norman Hitt; 02-18-2009 at 05:36 AM.

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    Norman,

    Even without seeing the reconfiguration, I feel for you. The cost and hassle of getting the car fixed is huge - but only a minor irritation when we consider LOYL is OK.

    And I have to agree with you on the costs these days. I did collision and rust repair work in the early 80's. When a cell phone equipped parent swapped paint with my rear bumper cover the bill was over $500 just to sand/prep/paint it!

    Just keep repeating "Nobody was hurt" over and over.

    Good luck!
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    Well, this is just a Bump, 'cause I "Finally" got my pic file straightened out and Added the "Damage Pictures, and thought you might want to see how little damage it takes to cost 9 Grand plus to repair First Class, (especially if you haven't had occasion to price Body work recently).

    It seems that the "Other Party" has Insurance with a Co. out of Wisconsin, and they do not have an office here, but someone in their Home Office last Friday said they would arrange for an (contract I suppose) adjuster to get with the LOML sometime this week, and would "Try" to arrange it for the first part of the week, but no word yet. That figures, since the LOML is leaving town early Thursday for a three day Seminar. Maybe someone told them to wait, 'cause that "Red Headed Lady" is tougher to deal with "these days" than I am, (getting Soft in my Old Age, I guess).
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    Ye-ouch! Sure doesn't look like $9K worth of damage, but body shop costs have been going up with all the other things in life lately, I guess. Glad LOYL wasn't hurt, and here's hoping the other party's insurance makes good on their obligation.
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    I tell you that just sucks, the car will never be the same, the never are after getting fixed

    What hit her? Looks like a 1 ton truck with a flat bed on it or something?

    What always burns me up is the time wasted, which you NEVER get compensated for, hours of stuff that is often frustrating as well. What is she driving now? A buddy here in Tokyo got hit while stopped in an intersection, waiting to turn, in a turning lane, he got hit head on, a car came through the intersection and just ran into him. Turns out the guy was drunk and taking on his cell phone My buddies van was badly damaged, the day was ruined, his wife and kids were badly shaken, but thank goodness no one was hurt. He spent hours and hours in the cop shop, explaining then explaining again and again what happened, and he had two witnesses, one the guy behind him, who, thankfully only saw it happen, did not get hit too, and a guy on a motorcycle who was stopped the other way at the same intersection.

    So the drunk cell phone talking moron is rich, like RICH RICH RICH, but his insurance will not pay, because it is void, he is drunk My buddy has 3rd party so his insurance will pay, and then they go after the rich doorknob. My buddy had to rent a car out of his own pocket for work for two weeks while his van was fixed, he did eventually get that money back, but he had to fight for it, two years, yes YEARS later. He also had to spend countless hours in depositions and such for his insurance company in the law suit brought against the rich goof. In the end, he figures he spent a good working week (40+ hours) dealing with all that stuff, and he never got compensated for that time he runs his own business, so that is time that is lost to him.
    Sorry to ramble on, but it bugs me to see this kind of thing and think of the time wasted by someone who was in a hurry

    I sure hope you get some satisfaction on this one!
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    Major bummer Norman. Sure glad the LOYL came out unhurt. My mom has that same car and was hit about 3 weeks ago along the same side. Only took out the 2 doors and didn't touch the front fender as did on yours. Repair bill was $4600.00. The repair shop told her to be happy it is a Ford product because parts are available at this time, and if it was a Chevy it may have sat awhile waiting for parts as they are not readily available as of now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norman Hitt View Post
    ...It seems that the "Other Party" has Insurance with a Co. out of Wisconsin, and they do not have an office here, but someone in their Home Office last Friday said they would arrange for an (contract I suppose) adjuster to get with the LOML sometime this week, and would "Try" to arrange it for the first part of the week...
    Why not have your own insurance company arrange to fix the car, and let them deal with the other company? I've done that a couple of times in the past. I got better service that way, and it didn't affect my premiums, either. Might as well get some service for all those premiums you've been paying over the years...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim DeLaney View Post
    Why not have your own insurance company arrange to fix the car, and let them deal with the other company? I've done that a couple of times in the past. I got better service that way, and it didn't affect my premiums, either. Might as well get some service for all those premiums you've been paying over the years...
    Great advice. Insurance companies are for profit, sometimes becoming real hard nosed to save paying out. You pay for your insurance, let them earn their pay and get the fix done for you. I deal with auto insurance claims and the car rentals resulting from them everyday. I tell frustrated people dealing with the same hold ups as you to do this all the time.
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    I'm not sure how it is in your state but you have the right to take your car to any shop you want. I managed the bodyshop at the dealership I worked for in Oregon and know there are insurance companies that make arrangements with local bodyshops to do work for them. In return the bodyshop would do the work a certain way with discounts and lower labor rates and the insurance company sent their customers to those shops. We did that with several companies (it's just part of doing business) and if a customer didn't want to bring his car to us the IC would say all kinds of things to the customer to change their mind but in the end couldn't do anything but pay the bill.

    One thing I would like to mention is look for things on the estimate that say "blend". Any undamaged panel adjacent to a part being repaired must be painted as well! I don't care how "good" the painter thinks he or she is there is no way they will get a "butt" match to look good. When you get into the sunshine you will see the difference in the color from one paint to the next. When they "blend" the panel they put color about halfway across the panel and clear coat the whole panel.

    Another thing to look for is "adds" things like taking moldings and emblems off and not masked off when painting. It will leave a place where the clear coat will start peeling down road. Also if they go with a used door instead of a door skin, make sure they take the door handles and locks out of the door before painting rather than masking them off (for the same reason as the molding)s.

    One last thing to help get a good paint job.... don't take delivery of your car on cloudy or rainy day. Take it out into the sunshine and walk around it and even move the car so you get different light on the repair. This way you can see if the paint matches. With the metallics in paint you can get a different "flop" of the flakes and will make the pain look darker or lighter than the old paint. Thats the main reason for blending.

    Sorry for the long post but I hate seeing people pay their hard erned money to insurance companies only to get short cut by a greedy shop.
    Last edited by Royall Clark; 02-18-2009 at 03:35 PM.
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    Notice Anything Different???

    Norman,

    Yeah, I have to totally agree with what Royall has said. (I knew there was something I liked about him. Must be the lacquer thinner we brush our teeth with. LOL)

    We are paying way too much for body repairs these days and we better expect "Perfect" results.

    So many times I see repaired cars that have one heck of a shine and look like a good color match, from one direction, but as the light changes, so does the color or brilliance. In a color such as your wife's car, the simplest change in the painter's technique will make a whole world of difference in what it looks like. Remember, no human painted the car to begin with. The chances of a human matching the spraying technique of the paint robot are slim. Even with all the training and the latest in advanced spray equipment.

    When I started out in body work, over 50 years ago, we would have "straightened" those panels out instead of replacing them. Good sheet metal men are extremely rare, if they even exist today. The metal the cars are made from can't be re-shaoped like the old metal could be, either.

    I still can't see how they can charge that much for this much damage. I guess I'm getting too old to understand the new ways.

    The insurance companies are getting to be a pain too. I'm hoping I never have to use their services, ever. I hear horror stories.

    I hope it all works out OK.

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