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    What to do with this plane?

    Some weeks ago I got this plane quite cheap at e-bay, as it is of unknown brand and has some severe pitting or holes the bids where low.

    It seems to have been repaired with not much fortune, the tote is cracked and I think that the previous owner dismantled it and inserted a screw from the bottom.
    The sides are more or less OK but the sole has these big holes.

    So here is my dilemma:

    Should I try to fix and restore it or leave it like that.
    What do I do with the holes, braze them, fill them with metal expoxy filler or I try to fill them by welding?

    As I have acces to a lapping machine I can leave the surfaces completely flat but the holes will remain.

    And if make new rivets I will need to protect the wood somehow if I have to lap the sides to leave the rivets flush, because the lapping machine uses drilling oil.

    Any hint clues or suggestions are welcome.
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    It looks like a very nice plane. I don't think the holes will cause you any problems in use - none are close to the mouth. I'd flatten the sole and if you really don't like the holes, fill them with JB Weld.

    Of course, if you can take the plane apart you can have someone weld metal into the holes but I think that's way overkill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Henderson View Post
    It looks like a very nice plane. I don't think the holes will cause you any problems in use - none are close to the mouth. I'd flatten the sole and if you really don't like the holes, fill them with JB Weld.

    Of course, if you can take the plane apart you can have someone weld metal into the holes but I think that's way overkill.

    Mike
    Hi Mike, what is JB weld?
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    Toni, JB Weld is an epoxy. Probably what you were referring to as "metal epoxy filler".

    http://jbweld.net/products/jbweld.php
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    Yep, sorry for not explaining what JB Weld is. When cured it's gray so it'll show in the holes because the metal will be shiny. But it works pretty good.

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    hey mike, after while yu will learn that we have to watch how we say things for toni, he is a spainish fellar and our english isnt translated as well as it could be..
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    I agree with Mike, I'd not bother with any filler Toni, I'd just make sure the bottom was flat, and use it, as it does look like a good "user plane".

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    Not in favor of epoxy

    Quote Originally Posted by Toni Ciuraneta View Post
    <snip>So here is my dilemma:

    Should I try to fix and restore it or leave it like that.
    What do I do with the holes, braze them, fill them with metal epoxy filler or I try to fill them by welding?

    As I have acces to a lapping machine I can leave the surfaces completely flat but the holes will remain.

    And if make new rivets I will need to protect the wood somehow if I have to lap the sides to leave the rivets flush, because the lapping machine uses drilling oil.<snip>
    Personally I think that filling the holes with JB Weld or epoxy of any type would be a waste of time. It would just be a cosmetic finish and could "theoretically" introduce contaminants into the wood your working on. I mean, you'd be abrading/wearing against the epoxy every time you use it. As long as the holes are not near the mouth (which they don't look to be) I'd leave them as is and consider them "wax repositories"

    And as far as protecting the wood while it's on the lapping machine and exposed to oil, I'd give all the wooden surfaces coat of wax and then cover them with blue painter's tape.

    HOWEVER, (depending how much material needed to be removed) I'd be inclined to NOT use a machine and lap this plane by hand on a sheet of glass using adhesive backed sandpaper. I've cleaned up several dozen hand planes this way and while it's a good deal of work, the results are worth it.
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    toni,
    that's a nice lookin` infill.....check the sole for flat (i'll bet it's close) slather some wax on it, sharpen the iron, adjust the chipbreaker and make shavings.
    if after using it for a while you feel pretty is important then start making improvements..
    i`ll bet you end up liking it and using it frequently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    toni,
    that's a nice lookin` infill.....check the sole for flat (i'll bet it's close) slather some wax on it, sharpen the iron, adjust the chipbreaker and make shavings.
    if after using it for a while you feel pretty is important then start making improvements..
    i`ll bet you end up liking it and using it frequently.
    Toni,
    What Tod said! It looks to be perfectly usable 'as is,' with just a bit of cleaning.

    I would probably shorten the knurled screw on the cap iron, though. With it that long, it looks to be a 'knuckle buster.'
    Last edited by Jim DeLaney; 03-30-2009 at 02:53 PM.
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