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    breif how to box-again!!

    this is how i do my box's - everyone has there own way- this isn't meant to be "the only way" or "you must do it this way" just a brief guide, as always find which way/tools work for you.

    for this "how to" I used a very old piece of African blackwood which i have had in my house for several years, I would normally rough out the blank first to ensure that the fit of the lid stays as you left it but this blackwood wont move and i wanted to show the whole process.

    This blank is 3" square by 5" long

    knocked into the round

    I forgot to take a pic but mark out the lid from the base and part them through with a very thin parting tool

    heres the lid mounted in my chuck

    I hollowed out the inside using a spindle gouge on its side- then cut a female rebate this must have parallel sides if the lid is to make a good fit- sand a finish the inside now

    mount the base in the jaws

    make a male tenon to fit the lid- at this stage you want to jam fit the lid onto the base to make the outside of the lid- i take a core out of the centre of the base at this point

    jam the lid on but make sure its not too tight as you cant remove it once the lids sanded

    heres the lid shaped-

    while its jammed on work on the base- at this point you can see the whole form which helps with proportions etc

    I've now sanded to 800 grit

    apply some lemon oil- here the oil is still wet, its such a dense wood it will stay wet for a few seconds

    here i've applied u-beaut eee by cloth, this helps when i will buff it later- you could leave it like this if you wish but the buffing will remove the very fine radial sanding marks that a cloth wont

    before you take the base out of the chuck remember to ease the fit of the lid with avery sharp skew and very fine cuts- a fraction of a shaving will make the difference between to tight and just right so take your time.

    make a jam chuck from a bit of scrap wood- this is good lid fitting pratice.

    jam the base on and clean away the dovetail hold- sand and finish the base at this stage.

    now mount a jacobs chuck in the headstock and using a 6" loose leaf mop go over the box with a tiny bit of eee applied to the mop- hang on tight and only use the bottom quarter of the mop (between 6 and 9)keep a dedicated mop for each polish you use don't mix and match

    next i mount another mop in the pigtail and apply u-beaut shellwax cream-this leaves a very high hard wearing shine which i like on dark woods

    I hope this is of some help- any questions just ask, if you don't want to ask here drop me a pm
    Last edited by George Watkins; 05-07-2009 at 06:32 AM. Reason: typo

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    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    DSM, IA
    Great tutorial George and a beautiful box too.
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    Apr 2007
    Red Deer, Alberta, Canada
    Thanks for that, George.
    Also, what Jeff said.
    Why has common sense
    become so uncommon?

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    Jun 2008
    GTA Ontario Canada
    Thanks George you make it all look soooo easy.

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    Oct 2006
    ABQ NM
    Thanks for taking the time to write this up, George. I'm going to put a copy over in the Tips and Tutorials section.

    Oops...I see Jeff already beat me to it.
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    Dec 2006
    Goodland, Kansas
    Yep George that's how I do it. Great looking box.
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    Dec 2007
    Billings Missouri near Springfield Mo
    Thanks George for the tutorial and nice box I hope to get to try some of these sometime soon.

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    Reno, Nv
    Nice job George. That's a great shape and beautiful finish. Maybe someday....
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    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Central Illinois
    Great job and tutorial, George. I do have one question. You state that you used a Spindle Gouge on the inside of the lid of the box. Would you show pictures of the gouge, showing the grind. It will be very helpful to understand you accomplished it without a bunch of catches.

    Thanks in advance.

    Bruce Shiverdecker - Retired Starving Artist ( No longer a Part timer at Woodcraft, Peoria, Il.)

    "The great thing about turning is that all you have to do is remove what's not needed and you have something beautiful. Nature does the hard part!"

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    Thanks guys

    I will get a picture later Bruce-
    its just 3/8" gouge with slight swept back grind and a very short flute to reduce chatter- I use it cutting from inside to out with the flute over on its side pointing at 9-0 clock ish. the gouge stays horizontal at all times-push it into the centre and swing the handle to the right, then repeat until the final depth is reached- then on hard woods like this i neg scrape the sides and base so ican start sanding at 180 ish.
    I also use the same technique on goblet bowls and starting hollow forms etc

    here you go

    Last edited by George Watkins; 05-07-2009 at 08:11 AM. Reason: to add picture

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