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    Signed, Dusty in Idaho

    I have an Oneida DC with an internal filter. I don't think they offer these any more, and I know why. If they clog, they are a bear to clean. In fact, just normal maintenance is a big job as removing the filter for cleaning requires removing the cone. It comes off easy..
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    Some time back I had the bright idea that if I put a nice heavy plastic bag in the drum then the chore of emptying it might not be so bad. Well, in theory that sounds good, but in practice the bag pulls away from the sides of the drum, constricts the dropping dust, and causes everything to back up inside the cone and eventually packing in around the filter. You can see in the picture where the filter is located and how hard it is to clean around it.
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    It was easier to get rid of the dust - not having to dump the drum - but if I forgot to constantly check the dust level, open the drum and push things down to expand the bag, I'd have an even bigger mess.

    So, time to scrounge the misc part pile. A piece of left over lexan, a few odd screws and nuts, a little caulk, and now I have a window on the world of dust. This will be easier to check and no more constricted flow. I placed the window so its top is about the 3/4 mark. Now I know if I don't see open space in the window it's time to dump. It' won't be pleasant, but it will be easier than unpacking the filter.
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    Good idea Rennie.

    So far I'm getting away with shop vacuums ( got three of them) but making a proper cyclone and setting up a dust extraction system is on my "to do" things sooner than later. I only need to get the proper power at home 220V three phase current.
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    i clean my filter every time i turn it on it goes outside
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    Quote Originally Posted by larry merlau View Post
    i clean my filter every time i turn it on it goes outside
    You obviously do not live 40' from your neighbor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rennie Heuer View Post
    You obviously do not live 40' from your neighbor.
    Well, if you used Larry's method, maybe you wouldn't have a neighbor 40' away to worry about anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaughn McMillan View Post
    Well, if you used Larry's method, maybe you wouldn't have a neighbor 40' away to worry about anymore.
    Then again, he might morph from tolerable into a NN!

    I wish I had the acreage to just blow it all outside. Oh well, such is life in the burbs.
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    Good luck with things! I had some ideas, but I don't think any of them would work.

    My first thought was to put some tension rings at a few places to hold the bag open, but you may as well just have a naked drum at that point.

    Could you build an internal cage out of plastic or something that is slightly smaller than the barrel but that still keeps the bag open? This would likely be more time than worth, especially since you'd need to build the cage very very carefully to avoid the possibility of bag failure while pulling it out of the drum.

    Now that you have the lexan there, I wonder if there's any way to install a valve and apply a vacuum to get the bag to "stick" to the side walls of the drum?

    At any rate, best of luck with everything!

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    Rennie, one thing i had seen somewhere and i think it is on the Oneida site but can be made up pretty easy if you have a welder, is a frame of heavy wire that goes inside the bag when you put it in the bin.

    It keeps the plastic bag against the bin and when it comes time to empty you lift out the wire frame ( round as the bin in size and length but a little loose to make removal possible). Maybe something like that would help with the bag.

    Oh Larry if I did that can you imagine the NN. I have already had the Ministry of Environment over at my place looking for a baghouse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rennie Heuer View Post
    You obviously do not live 40' from your neighbor.
    I had tried everything I could think of to vent outside but the dust would either end up at my entryway or in the neighbor's Koi pond. I didn't want to start that NN war some folks have .

    I was unaware of that cyclone design. Thanks for the post and the great idea on the bin Rennie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rennie Heuer View Post
    Then again, he might morph from tolerable into a NN!
    Soooo, did the "Addams" family move? Or is Wacky macabre the new tolerable?
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