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  1. #131
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    IM stuck today. Great weather, and I have to sit and wait for a phonecall letting me know if I have to drive into my old job to empty things out later.
    I dont want to get started and get full of saw dust and then have to rush into the city to meet someone. Eh..........I hate days like this.

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    THANKYOU WOODWORKING GODS

    Im waitin on this person to call me since 10:30 am today, and I decided towork a bit this morning to move this shop build along because Im ready to start cutting real hard wood again and I want to be building something.
    So I built the new legs and frame for the mitre saw. Didnt cut down the plywood top yet, didnt want to start setting up outside and all, theres just zero room now to work in my garage. I can barely walk, so working in it is tuff.
    As soon as I get the mitre saw in place, I can put the new work table in place, and start the second work table but empty all the old stuff out and make some room.
    So Im kinda tryin to move things along. take advantage of every minute this week. Next week Im down for treatment.
    I came upstairs, changed and took a quick shower.
    She called me around 1:15 and said shes getting her truck and will be ready to meet me soon so Id have to leave any minute now.
    I went back into the garage, I just threw on my flipflops to assess where Im at and what I need to do tomorrow AM.
    I decided while Im waiting on her call, Id rip off the old mitre table and get it ready to either salvage some wood and toss the rest.
    Im unsecuring all the long screws I had put into the wall and other table to secure it, and when finished with screws, I had to yank it free since I had used 2.5 inch brads to hold in place while I screwed originally. I took my crowbar and on the first yank, the makita drill/driver fell off the bench and onto the floor, missed my bare toes by an inch. Before I bent to pick it up, I yanked the frame of the mitre stand one more time, and sure enough, it jumped free and since one side had no legs, it crashed down and that split second, maybe a tenth of a second, I knew my bare feet in flipflops were under those heavy 2x10 rails about to crush my toes and I just held my breath. The table smashed onto the floor, but because I dropped the makita one yank before and was too lazy to pick it up, the frame landed on the makita, and spared my toes! What luck!
    I was so excited I didnt break all my toes, I came up here to put on shoes and go to work, but wanted to share my good fortune. Usually, Id end up with 3 broken toes.(not going to work, just going in to sell off some odds and ends like registers and bags and racks, nothing wrong with raising money for more tools, now its all gravy, nothing but gravy.)

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    I'll take luck like that any day of the week!

  4. #134
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    What's the saying? I'd rather be lucky than smart? [No offense intended].

    My usual shop footwear is steel toed boots. I've dropped so many things on my toes, I gave in and bought protection.

    I am truly glad you and your toes are OK.

  5. #135
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    This is very slow going. Warning, long post.
    I dont want to ever rearrange anything in my shop again, ever, so Im taking my time and making sure everything is where I want it right down to the inch.
    Getting my old folding mitre ramp off was horrible for me today. What would take most people 15 minutes, took me 2 hours.
    I had to get underneath to unscrew the tabletop and the folding brackets, and after a few screws my arms failed to lift the drill. Incredible.
    In case I never said it, I hate Myasthenia.
    I had to rest in between each screw. It was almost laughable.
    After everything old was out, I finally got to size the table in place to see how close I can get to the door. I only need to keep enough space to open the door just so I can squeeze in if needed.
    I forgot there was an old gas line sticking up from the floor, the previous owner had a dryer in the garage. The line was capped off, if that is the expression, but 8 inches stick out of the floor. against the wall.
    I couldnt roll the table flush against the wall, and it ticked me off.
    I was joshing with my wife when she came home for lunch, and complained, oh man, Im losing space. She said, what! AN INCH!, So I said yeah, times 64, so thats almost 1/2 a sq foot. (I was kidding with her, but acted serious)
    She looked at it, leaned over, saw the table resting against the pipe, and said"well, why dont you drop 50 lbs, Im sure youll gain back a couple of square feet working space!"
    It was bad enough I was struggling every inch of the way, she just had to pour it on, but she is pretty funny.

    Now, IM hoping with the mitre ramp in place, it makes my vision/idea clear.
    The mitre ramp, like all the other tools on table can be removed in a few seconds and stored.(In the pictures, I just laid it on 2 brackets, I should have 3 so it doesnt bend, but Im not up to the shelving yet).
    I can take out the mitre ramp(which I will probably never do unless I need one of the other tools in place), and just put a blank in there to have a low working space. I can make as many sliding platforms I want for any machine I want to keep there, but I think thats about it.
    I get up to 94.5 inches clearance up to the door left of mitre.(only 10 inch wide or less because then I lose a couple of inches to compensate door knob) More than enough.
    There will be work benches stretching the entire length to the right, so I can go alot longer if I have too, but dont like working right. I wont lay a t track right of the saw for a block, I usually clamp a board to the work table if the need comes up.
    I made sure the first of 3 parts(the small drawers filing cabinets) cabinets fit nicely under the mitre. I sanded it down to mostly bare steel and painted it.
    It is off slightly because the floor tilts down to the right and back of mitre.
    I had to apply shims under table legs to get the mitre all level. The floor just drops off, guess the foundation sunk over the years.
    Some pics. Hope this explains and makes my all in one work bench clear.
    To those that think cramming 3 or 4 stations into a 4 foot area, feh.
    Maybe Ill put some nice hardwood trim on the table edges and stain it one day. Im not really worried about how it looks, just that its level and functional.
    when Larry decides he isnt afraid of NY traffic, he can spend a day or two and help me insulate the walls and ceiling
    The table right of the mitre will be removed, and I will build one that is shorter, only covering the rolling cabinet underneath, and right of that will be a rolling work bench, with a vise.(that should be a trip trying to build a bench with a vise)
    The entire left wall will be work surfaces, but the last table will go into middle so I can finally, finally, work on something on all 4 sides.
    I received my first 2 orders, accessories, like castors, new push sticks and blocks, some bits, etc.......and yesterday I got myself an mlcs router extension table for the sawstop so I can install it when it comes in. I decided to skip the process of making a router table since all the parts and pieces arent cheap, and I wanted an iron surface anyway.
    Dust lines, thats my last worry. Most important, but I can always use the existing lines and just drop extensions to any machine Im working with. Id love to move my dust collector into a shack outside, but Im not sure if my local laws will permit that. Im working on that.
    Im sorry if Im boring anyone.

    oh, that foot of space behind the parts cabinet, Im going to store a couple of old tool boxes filled with worthless hand tools but alot of them came from my wifes father and grandfather, and I will eventually pass them down to my son. they arent worth anything, but Id hate to toss them.
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  6. #136
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    Go Allen, go!

    I like the slide-out tool base idea for the bench. I also like the idea of the cast iron router table wing for the new SawStop.
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  7. #137
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    I think that 3/4" plywood would be best. I'd avoid particle board altogether.

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    I made my bench out of 2 layers of MDF with hardboard top. It's taken a lot of abuse but it is HEAVY!

    depending on the quality of the ply you get, it might be easier to make a flat top with MDF.

    Did you think about making a torsion box? They are strong, flat, and wouldn't weigh as much.

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    crud, I hit delete I meant to delete a word.
    my question was for a work bench, with a vise, which top would be best.
    2 sheets plywood and masonite topping, mdf, particle board or combination with hardboard on top.(1/4 inch masonite topping)

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    A torsion box would still be top and bottom sheet, wouldnt it?

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