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    Need plans/ideas for an outdoor storage bin.

    Hello everyone

    So, I'm back and of course I need some help planning out a project. I feed cubes to my horse. There compressed alfalfa cubes that I store in a rubbermade type outdoor storage bin.

    Well, I got another horse and I need more storage. I always wanted to build my own bins and now it's time to figure out the best design that will fit my needs. Currently the bin I have only holds 2 1/2 weeks of feed so I have to go twice a month to the cuber.

    As winter comes prices go up so I'm hoping to build these storage bins and buy more while the prices are good. If I have good luck with the first one I build then I'm planing to build more and stock up for winter if possible.

    Here's the bin I am currently using. Notice the red straps holding the front doors closed. It can hold 700lbs of cubes but those straps are the only thing keeping all the sides together and the front doors closed.



    I want to build two "bins" out of wood that are about the same size or a little bigger. The bigger the better as far as storing more cubes but I have to make sure it can handle the stress of so much weight packed inside.

    Can you help me with a design I can build? I would need it built on skids so it's off the ground just in case it rains hard and so I can drag it with the quad if I want to move it latter. The cubes can't get wet or they will start to mold so rain proofing is a big priority. I like the hinged lid top and I wouldn't need the doors on the front, I don't use them. I would build the lid more slopped so the rain runs off better, the current bin lid has a "dent" that gathers rain because it's barely slopped and I'm sure someone sat on it at some point.

    I would need them no taller then an average sized tail gate when put down. I usually go get a load of cubes in the back of my truck, back it up to the bin and shovel/push them out into the bin below.

    I will get measurements on my current bin today, the poor thing is about to explode its so full of cubes and during the summer it got so hot it started distorting the plastic under all that stress. lol

    Please let me know any ideas you might have or any help you can give me. I don't know where to start on this so if you know of some free plans for something like this please let me know. I kinda need a plan to go from and a parts list of what kind of meterial/wood to buy.

    I'm just affraid I would build it and forget to reenforce something or use the wrong wood and it collapses or the sides pop off. lol

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    Erin, what tools do you have to build this with. I know you have the sander, do you own a circular saw ? hand drill ? those would be the minimum tools to do any project.
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    I have a hand drill and my neighbor has a circular saw he lets me borrow. He also has a portable table saw. So, I think that's all I will need, it's all straight cuts right?

    I'm thinking I will need to put X's with 2x4 in the frame to reinforce it along the walls? I have built a wooden gate before that I had to put a cross board to help stabilize the box frame. So, I'm thinking I will have to do something like that so the sides don't bow out.

    I just don't know the best way to frame the sides so there strong and won't give out on me. I also have no idea how to attach the side together, what kind of joint to use or if I should buy one of those metal corner cover/braces you can screw on that holds the corner together.

    I was thinking about using a plywood on the inside and put two framed boxes with x's in the middle on the outside. So the framing would be on the outside of the box and kind of decorative, I could paint it red with white trim like a barn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erin Reichelt View Post
    I have a hand drill and my neighbor has a circular saw he lets me borrow. He also has a portable table saw. So, I think that's all I will need, it's all straight cuts right?...

    Yeah, all straight, unless you wanna get fancy with a domed lid or something - which I wouldn't recommend, btw.

    I was thinking about using a plywood on the inside and put two framed boxes with x's in the middle on the outside. So the framing would be on the outside of the box and kind of decorative, I could paint it red with white trim like a barn.
    Your thinking is pretty sound. You could probably get away with using 1 X 4 for the "X's" but 2 X 4 would be even more substantial, considering you'll be putting nearly half a ton of feed in each of them.

    Basically, all you'll be doing is building a big reinforced box. You might want to think about sloping the lid a bit, toward the back of the box, so that the rain (what little you get in Bakersfield) will run off, and away from the front, where it'd make a muddy mess. A 5° or so pitch would be enough.

    Put the box together using deck screws instead of nails. They'll hold better. Use exterior ¾" plywood for the box, but since horses are so sensitive to food contamination, DO NOT use pressure treated wood that'll come in contact with the food.
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    What Jim said, and make the top a couple of inches bigger then the box all around. Maybe put some weather stripping on the top lip.
    My tail gate when dropped is about 28 inches high so you could do it with 3 sheets of plywood. 2 4x4's for the base and 5 or six 2x4's. Don't forget we like pictures of you finished project.
    I'm thinking maybe a box 24 Inches high by 8 feet long and 4 feet deep. That would hold a lot of feed. Maybe not quite so deep.
    Last edited by Don Baer; 10-02-2009 at 06:34 PM.
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    A long time ago I found a site that had free plans for a garbage storage bin. It was the kind you put out in front or back of your house and it holds two trash cans. It was similar to the bin I have now, doors on the front so the trash guy could get the cans out and a hinged lid on top that slopped. The plans had all the step by step details on how to build it.

    I tried to find the plans again but I didn't save the site and all that came up were little decorative ones for your kitchen.

    But, that's the idea I'm going for but it doesn't have to have the doors on the front and needs to be reinforced some how to hold the weight.

    Do you think if I put box framing on the outside with an x or a / in the middle that would be fine or should I also put some kind of framing on the inside too?

    Also, what kind of plywood do I use or thickness. I know I will need to paint it or it will just rot.

    For the skids I was thinking 4x4 treated posts to give it some lift off the ground.

    I forgot they have thick plywood, I've never built with plywood so I've just seen the thinner cheap stuff used for home built shelters and things. I think that thick plywood would work with some framing?

    I had it in my head that plywood is really weak and flexible and couldn't hold the weight with out major framing but if I got some of the thicker stuff I wouldn't need so much extra framing and it could be more decorative then necessary.

    Sorry, I think out loud and type at the same time....

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    Erin, "what's this talk of pulling with the "QUAD"?" Don't I remember a harness in your shed last time???

    Well, might be more than you wanted, but I am by nature lazy. So, why not a box that fits inbetween the wheel wells in your pickup or in your horse trailer. Then it gets filled at the cubing place (I use old fashioned hay!) and back at home back up to a frame and slide or with wheels, push this loaded box onto its platform. Then, no shoveling!! Don't have clear figures or sizes, but this is my first idea off the top of my head.
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    Ohh, Wow, thanks for all the information. I didn't see your post. You already answered my questions You guys are quick!

    Thanks so much. I will measure out my current box and add a little depth to it. I like the hight and length, it match the size of my tail gate but I could get away with making it a bit deeper to hold more cubes.

    I also like your idea of slopping it to the back. I would have done the exact opposite not thinking that I would end up standing in a big mud puddle with scooping cubes. Thanks for that tip!

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    Johnathan,

    I think that's a little over my head . I'm home alone alot so I don't know if I could push that kind of weight out of a trailer and my trailer is a step up so I would need a ramp or something. lol

    I don't have a problem shoveling the cubes, it's a good work out that's for sure but I can do it by myself so I don't have to worry about needing help. That's why I like cubes because there a size I can handle. I can't lift a bale on my own. Around here there 100+ pounds each, I can roll it end over end to get it where I need it but stacking them is hard work.

    So, I like the cubes because I don't need any help and I don't pull my back out trying to unload them. lol Plus, there compact so the amount of space they take up pound for pound vs bales is much less. Not to mention the Hubby is happy I no long have "his" garage stacked with hay lol

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    Jim,

    Yeah, these boxes I'm hoping will hold closer to 1,000lbs each if I make them deeper from front to back then my current bin or even a little wider too.

    I fill the back of the truck (short bed) almost half way and it's around 700lbs of cubes so I'm thinking fully loaded would be close to a ton of cubes. The cuber isn't far from my home so if I built the first box and it worked out well. I could build 3 more, have 4 boxes and put two up against the garage and two up against the tack room. That would give me close to 3 months of feed. I could fill up the first two boxes when they get empty while the prices are still good and make it through the rest of the winter on all 4 boxes being full....I'm thinking out load again

    That's sure better then going every 2 weeks. The prices rise dramatically over winter, from 6.50 to $13 during winter so the more I can buy at the beginning of winter the better.

    Eventually I want a big storage area the size of a hopper trailer I can have them deliver a big truck load and just back up and dump it all in a solid 3 sided, cemented floor area with a removable cover top. That would be ideal and get me the best price on the cubes but we are still planing how we want the back property set up so that won't get built for a while if ever. lol

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