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    peanut oil?

    At our woodturning club meeting today, a member was showing off some of his recent, really great, work. He said he uses peanut oil for his finishes. The finishes looked just fine. But, this is a new one to me. Enneybody here ever heard of this or have used it for their finishes?
    BTW, I have about 15 gallons of peanut oil in the garage left over from a fish fry I did for one of my clubs. I offered to him.
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    Frank,

    I've never heard of using peanut oil as a finish either, however, I guess it shouldn't be too different than using walnut oil. I don't think used oil would be a good idea due the leftover fats which would likely go rancid in time.

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    Several points (all discussed recently on the AAW forum):

    1. Nut allergies. A fair number of people are extremely allergic to nut products. I have a very close friend who starts having breathing problems if someone eats a peanut butter sandwich too close to her. Peanut oil contacting her skin makes her break out in a rash.

    2. Rancidity. Peanut oil, like any other vegetable oil, can and will go rancid.

    3. Non-hardening. Peanut oil does not eventually harden (like walnut oil does). If you're using a non-hardening oil, there are better, less expensive options. Mineral oil comes to mind.
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    Vaughn hit the nail on the head. Peanut oil will go rancid. I tried some of it about 3 yrs ago and my wife won't have the three pieces I did in the house. They are in the storage shed. Also it will not dry and will always leave a mark wherever it is set down. Sure does make them look purdy for a while.
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    Rancid: I have done a lot of fish frying. The peanut oil I buy comes in about 5 gal. containers (actually it is sold as 35 lb.). Many times I have recovered and reused as much as a year later. There is no objectionable color, odor or flavor. However, what I have is over five years old and has been through freezing temps several times. Methinks that is pushing luck way too far.
    I dunno about finishing or hardening qualities. I do know this demonstrator has been using PO for years for his finishing and claims success. The finish on his bowls looked and felt just fine to me. Like I said, I dunno. Seems strange to me.
    I hate to sound insensitive to those with health problems. But to eliminate everything that someone might be allergic to presents other problems.
    It reminds me of the Ziggy cartoon: Ziggy is watching TV. Suddenly a government announcement pops up that says, "Caution. Do not eat or drink anything until further notice."
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    Don't know about using it as a finish, but PO makes a good bath for a deep fried turkey...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Fusco View Post
    I hate to sound insensitive to those with health problems. But to eliminate everything that someone might be allergic to presents other problems.
    It reminds me of the Ziggy cartoon: Ziggy is watching TV. Suddenly a government announcement pops up that says, "Caution. Do not eat or drink anything until further notice."

    Just a not so little thing to think on Frank these allergies strike without notice you or your children or grand children could be their next victim tomorrow. You would be having a tough time some days just living through the day let alone having someone show up with what is your worst nightmare the one or more items your deathly allergenic to. Imagine handing a bowl finished with peanut oil to a person allergenic to peanuts & them absorbing the minutest particles of it through their skin. They don't have to eat it.Some people can't even be on an airplane where peanuts are. One lady kissed her boyfriend who had eaten peanuts she died. I have a friend that is allergenic to shell fish he & his family went out to dinner at a Mongolian restaurant where they had cooked shell fish in their wok & then proceeded to cook his dinner in the same wok we almost lost him.

    Sorry to expound on this so long but its deadly. Please take these things seriously. Its something we all need to be aware of know about our friends. If your standing by & something like this happened to a close friend & you didn't know about their allergy & they died how would you feel & all just because you couldn't say that they had a certain allergy & the right treatment could be administered to save their life.

    If your friend or friends don't wear an emergency ID tag identifying them & their allergy please make them aware that these are available & try to make sure they get one.

    You see I work with & around the elderly, handicapped & disabled every day so I see things & hear about things & am made aware every day all day long.

    The book says we will always have these people with us. Its up to us how we handle these things.
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    Bart, I understand what you are saying. I have some medical training in my background, my wife is a pharmacist, my son and daughter-in-law are both medical doctors. We talk about these things.
    But, please read the section you quoted. Where do we draw the line? Almost everyone is allergic to something.
    Many of the woods we all use day to day are potentially fatal to a small percentage of the population in the same way as peanut oil.
    I'm allergic to bee stings but I choose to not live in a sealed bottle.
    I'm now wondering what percentage of the population may be allergic to walnut oil, shellac, lacquer or other organic finishes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Fusco View Post
    ...I'm now wondering what percentage of the population may be allergic to walnut oil, shellac, lacquer or other organic finishes.
    Peanut allergies occur in less than 1% of the population (0.4% to 0.6% per several sources). It's my understanding that walnut oil, once cured and hardened, loses the allergens. I've not heard of anyone with allergic reactions to the other finishes.

    But all this begs the question...why does the demonstrator use peanut oil in the first place? Why would someone use a non-hardening, eventually rancid, potentially deadly, finish? What problem does it solve that other finishes cannot?

    Anyway, it's his choice to use whatever he wants, and nice of you to offer him the 15 gallons you've got stored.
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    Not to hijack, but I had a kid out of class for a couple of days. When he came back his face was puffy. I asked him if he had a reaction to something. He told me that his little brother was taking amoxicillin. He said he is allergic to penicillin and just being around his brother caused him to have a reaction. He said his eyes had swollen shut.

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