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Thread: Help selecting Bandsaw, Jointer, Planer, and Table Saw

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Apex, NC

    Help selecting Bandsaw, Jointer, Planer, and Table Saw

    Hi all, I am getting close to setting up a new shop, and I have read countless books, posts, and magazines about what to get and what not to get, but am still looking for more suggestions.

    Currently, I'm trying to decide on a jointer, planer, and table saw. Here's the current break down:
    • Bandsaw - I've pretty much decided on the Grizzly G0555 with the 6" extension block, but I'm open to other suggestions.
    • Jointer - I'm currently looking at 6" Ridgid and 6" Grizzly models, as well as the 8" Grizzly. From the comments I've read, many people suggest getting an 8" if possible. For those that believe this is this the right thing to do, could you offer a few cases where it comes in handy (like pieces of furniture or whatever). That 8" lacks a mobile stand and shipping is double the 6" Grizzly.
    • Planer - I'm currently looking at the 13" Ridgid or possibly the 12" Makita. Both seemed to get good reviews in this months Wood Magazine.
    • Table Saw - I'm still up in the air about this. I can't decide between a good hybrid saw or cabinet saw. The new Grizzly G1023RL looks pretty nice. I would like to get one with a riving knife though. Ridgid seems to be lacking one at the moment, and all they'll tell me is they're working on a replacement for the R4511.

    I have checked Craig's List and I'll continue to do so, but nothing exciting has turned up there lately.

    I was looking at the new 10" Jet Planer/Jointer combo, but there doesn't seem to be a ton of reviews for it yet and the short table seems to scare most people.

    I'd mostly be doing small cabinets and furniture. I am doing this as a hobby for now, but I do plan to do this for a while -- which is why I'd like to spend a little more now and not have to buy new stuff again in a couple of years.

    As far as shop space goes, I have a 30'x22' detached garage. I need to be able to move most of the things along a wall to fit a F150 and a small tractor, but I can definitely move the truck out overnight when the need arises .

    I am trying to stay within a budget (~$3000), so getting the 8" jointer and a cabinet saw are pushing it a bit, but if it's the right thing to do, I'd rather do that and hold off on a few other things.

    Also, the local lumber yard sells S2S wood, so I'm not sure how often I'd need to join the faces of wide boards. I don't mind doing some hand planing as well.

    Thanks for any suggestions and comments!

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    First off welcome aboard.
    I would say to pop for the SawStop® 10” Professional Cabinet
    And a G0593 8" Jointer w/ Spiral Cutterhead
    The rest of the tools can come with time.
    Between the 2 it's just a bit over your tool budget but you'll never have to replace them.
    And what part of the country are you in? The people here see and hear about a lot of tools being sold, and if they have an idea where your from they will give you a heads up when they see some thing that is close to you.
    Last edited by Chuck Thoits; 02-25-2010 at 01:52 AM.
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  3. #3
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Apex, NC
    I'm in Apex, NC (outside of Raleigh). Just updated my info.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    somewhere east of Queen Creek, AZ - South East of Phoenix
    Were I in your shoes, I'd get the saw stop and a good planer. I have the dewalt 735. You can face joint on the planer with a sled and if you have a proper blade on the TS it will take care of the edge joining. The rest can come later.
    "There’s a lot of work being done today that doesn’t have any soul in it. The technique may be the utmost perfection, yet it is lifeless. It doesn’t have a soul. I hope my furniture has a soul to it." - Sam Maloof
    The Pessimist complains about the wind; The Optimist expects it to change;The Realist adjusts the sails.~ William Arthur Ward

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    falcon heights, minnesota
    i have the version of the grizzly bandsaw without the bells and whistles, and i think it's all right. i have the 13" rigid 3 blade planer, and i just love it.
    benedictione omnes bene

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Oak Harbor Washington on Whidbey Island
    What I don't understand is people keep pushing others to buy the most expensive items when it is obvious he is trying to get a reasonably priced collection of tools that will serve well for many years to come so that he can have a fairly well rounded shop.

    "I am trying to stay within a budget (~$3000)"

    Unless your going to be building furniture with lots of over 6"wide long boards I.E trestle tables, large china cabinets etc. For the most part I would look for a 6" jointer you can buy locally be it new or used so you can avoid shipping. I think the Ridgid planer will serve you well That leaves you with shipping for only the Grizzly table-saw & Band-saw. I think your on the right track. You'll still need clamps, electric hand tool, regular hand tools etc.

    Just my 2 cents worth. YMMV
    "Forget the flat stuff slap something on the spinny thing and lets go, we're burning daylight" Bart Leetch
    "If it ain't round you may be a knuckle dragger""Turners drag their nuckles too, they just do it at a higher RPM"Bart

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Delton, Michigan
    welcome to our group here, don. my take is first off if you are firm on your dollar expense then let the jointer go and get a good Tsaw, either a new or good used,, the saw stop is one fine TSaw but pricey, but its not to pricey if you have lost fingers on the cheaper models. the other tools that your not looking at like bart mentioned add up in hurry. and with a good blade on your TSaw and your hand plane you can get by without a jointer. do i have one yes, have i gotten by without yes again. the planer you mentioned possibly could be paid for by the saving in have the lumber yard do it for you.. but most of us have either the lunch box or the stationary models..not familiar with grizzly planers but have heard and seen good results in the dewalt 735. one feature that is nice is the blower to exstract the chips out for you. some of the others dont offer that.. happy hunting for your tools,, and get to know craigs list better.. they are a lot of tools out there that are good used tools and alot cheaper than the new ones
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  8. #8
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Amherst, New Hampshire
    I agree with Bart. Although the saw stop and 8" jointer are great that comes to more $ than he has available.
    Keep on checking CL. I have done real well carefully picking out the quality tools and getting good deals.
    If I had $3000 to start a shop I'd get a good used contractor table saw, ridgid 6" jointer, dewalt planer, PC random orbit sander, a decent used band saw, several routers and a router table. And a ton of clamps.

    Oh ya, Welcome Doug!!!
    Faith, Hope & Charity

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Tokyo Japan
    While I understand the budget thing, I'm sure we all do, and with $3000 you can certainly get decent versions of all the tools listed in the want list, but, I have to agree with Chuck and others that are suggesting the top drawer tablesaw to start.

    Honestly, the SawStop Pro model, with the quality and the built in safety device is hard to NOT buy, even if it kind of breaks your budget now, I'd advise to get that saw, and then over time, fill the other rosters slots on your list.

    This might even work to your advantage over time, I honestly do not see much point in buying a brand spanking new Bandsaw or Jointer, they have not really changed much in the past 20 years or so, and can often be had for real bargain prices used and in good condition. The lunch box planer is something that I'd want to buy new, as well as the Tablesaw, as there have been some really significant changes to these items in the past 20 years.

    If you do not go the SawStop route, at the very least go with a saw that haas a true splitter, this is one safety device that should have been on all of our saws a LONG time ago.

    it seems to me that you are taking the long view, and wish to do this hobby for the rest of your life, well with a top quality tablesaw, you will have a solid foundation to build on, and with a saw like the SawStop, (yes I have one) you will enjoy using it every time you turn it on.

    I'm not saying Bart or other are wrong, they are certainly NOT wrong, as Bart has a very nice collection of older well used tools, some that he has resurrected like his wonderful Delta Uni-saw, and others that he just maintains and uses all the time.

    You are not Chuck, nor are you Bart, you are Doug, so you will have to make the choice, and I'm happy that you are asking all of us for input.

    Welcome to the Family

    The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.
    William Arthur Ward

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Cedar Rapids, IA
    As I see it, from my own experience, rushing out to buy a bunch of tools to "start" a hobby is foolish. After 5 years since I decided to outfit the shop with the tools needed to do the type of work I wanted/needed to do, some still haven't even been plugged in let alone used. Granted, they spent 3 of those years in storage due to unrelated reasons. Yet, the best project I ever turned out was when I only had a table saw, bench top drill press, router, and a hand drill.

    Given that the lumber source provide lumber S2S, a jointer probably isn't necessary at this time. The SawStop table saw is an excellent recommendation. Be aware that you're paying extra for a unique and desirable safety feature. The other perspective is that when on a budget, you will end up buying tools which you'll want to upgrade later. It's to be expected. IMHO, the table saw is the most painful to upgrade as most woodworkers tend to setup their shops around the table saw. Dropping a new table saw in place in the future usually means rearranging many of the other items in your shop to remain efficient. From that perspective, and if I had to do it again, I would not skimp on the table saw.

    One opinion that I've formed with almost no input from others is that buying all of the equipment at once has a significant potential of slowing one's development of woodworking skills. This may sound a little counterintuitive. But, if you're positioned with only a couple of tools for a complex task, you're more or less forced to think outside the box on how to use those tools (safely) to accomplish the desired complex task. I think this skill is almost universal amongst those who truly crave to be in the wood shop and use their problem solving skills versus going out and spending the next $500 for a machine to save an hour or three of their play time. Yep, we can always buy more stuff to make the job faster and more accurate but I believe there's always a trade off elsewhere. Sometimes it is just $$$. Often it's the opportunity to learn something new which is where this fine group of worldly citizens come in to play.

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