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    Starting new "first" project.

    Hi guys/gals. I've never tried to build a real piece of furniture before and I'm now going to try to build an end table. Actually it will be a small cabinet that will set between my wifes and my recliner in our TV room. It will be a place to set the remotes and glasses of drink etc. It will have two small doors in the front that will open to allow "stuff" to be stored inside.
    I'm building it out of "select" pine and will add some "wainscot" panels to it for looks. The wood looks very good and straight. I'm using 8" width boards. I need to create 20" wide panels, 26 inches long from this 8" stock. (It will end up looking more like a box with doors in front.) I have a joiner and will be sure to square up the edges of each board.
    Do I need to use biscuits in the joints? Or can I just glue them up edge to edge of each board? I'll use titebond glue.


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    whenever I do a panel glue up I use dowels to help with alignment during glueup, you can use dowels or biscuits for this purpose.
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    Agreed. From what I've heard, the biscuits don't really add much in strength, but the do help to keep the glue up aligned. If you joint the edges nicely, the glue will do a great job of keeping things together. The biscuits or dowels help to keep the panels lined up with each other.
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    Tom if you want to just glue them up with out biscuits or dowels then make sure you use cauls to keep em flat, You can do a search on here for cauls and find out how to make some.
    "There’s a lot of work being done today that doesn’t have any soul in it. The technique may be the utmost perfection, yet it is lifeless. It doesn’t have a soul. I hope my furniture has a soul to it." - Sam Maloof
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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Baer View Post
    you can use dowels or biscuits for this purpose.
    Great....thanks guys. I'm sure I'll have more questions as I go along.

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    I recently gave up biscuits and will never use them again. I've gone back to dowels.
    I recently made a set of cauls based on Mike's design and will use them on most glue ups.
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    Bob, did you have an issue with the biscuits? Or did you just get some cool new doweling jib? Just curious.
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    I never use biscuits or dowels or cawls but somehow everything comes out just fine. If you joint your boards carefully to make sure you have a perfect 90 degree to the side you will have no problem unless your material is not straight. The biscuits and dowels don't do much since the titebond will be much stronger than the wood itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brent Dowell View Post
    Bob, did you have an issue with the biscuits? Or did you just get some cool new doweling jib? Just curious.
    It may be just me but I had way too much trouble keeping the boards flush especially with larger glue ups. I find that there is too much play between the thickness of the slot and the thickness of the biscuit. On the larger glue ups even cauls wouldn't keep every joint flush enough to not cause extra work with a belt sander or hand plane to flush them up.
    My old doweling jig may be slower but the joints are close to perfect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Hager View Post
    I never use biscuits or dowels or cawls but somehow everything comes out just fine. If you joint your boards carefully to make sure you have a perfect 90 degree to the side you will have no problem unless your material is not straight. The biscuits and dowels don't do much since the titebond will be much stronger than the wood itself.
    Hey Jim, nice to see you over here!

    I certainly agree with you that the glue is much stronger than the wood
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