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Thread: Sorry I upset everyone

  1. #1
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Odon, IN

    Sorry I upset everyone

    This did not turn out as I had hoped. Sorry to have bothered everyone here.

    Thank you to you and your son.
    Last edited by David Freed; 04-25-2010 at 08:43 PM. Reason: My original post upset everyone

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    The Heart of Dixie
    And the point of this post is?

    I don't have a dog in this fight. I don't care if you stay or leave frankly. I haven't read the other posts you refer to nor do I care too. I wouldn't normally even respond but it sounds like you going our of you way trying to stir something up and just love a good fight. If that is the case then I will just ignore your posts from now on and hope you leave.

    It's a woodworking forum, why not talk about woodworking and take the crap somewhere that likes a good fight?

    That is all I got to say.
    God grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked anyway,
    the good fortune to run into the ones I do,
    and the eyesight to tell the difference.

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  3. #3
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Tellico Plains, Tennessee
    Quote Originally Posted by David Freed View Post
    and if I do stay, I will just try to quietly join in a conversation because I don't like arguing all the time.
    Hi David,
    I've been here since Dec 2007 and in that time I've seen very little contention on this forum... I belong to others that seem to have more contentious posts than here. I've obviously missed something because I have no idea what either of your posts refer to, nor do I intend to search to try and find out... what has been said and done is said and done and can't be changed. We only go forward from there.

    I will say this, for a man who doesn't like to argue all the time, it seems to me that you are trying awfully hard to start one.

    I am not a moderator, nor do I wish to ever become one, but I do welcome you back....I think any input to a conversation can be a positive thing.
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  4. #4
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Lake City, Florida
    I've stayed out of this but enough is enough --
    With all due respect David, I really don't care if you stay or leave.
    If you don't like it here please leave, If you want to stay, please stay.
    But I'm really getting sick and tired of your whining and offended by your continuing threats to leave.

    So please, make a decison and leave or quit whining and stay.

    Tony, BCE '75

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Santa Claus, In
    David, I don't get it, either. I have never felt I was on eggshells. I have ask good questions and very stupid questions. Never once was I beat down or belittled. I read the post that was locked. I remember what happened. I DON"T CARE. Time to move on. Opinions are like, well you know the rest. Do what ever makes you feel right. I would like to see you stay, I can always use a Hoosier for back up, but I won't beg you to stay.

    And quite frankly, yep, you are acting like a troll. See you where ever you end up.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Mountain Home, Arkansas
    And the point is?????
    Don't let the door slam your backside on the way out.
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  7. #7
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Constantine, MI
    Normally I would stay away from posts like this. If I have an opinion that can be expressed civilly and unofensively, then I might post, but I usually steer clear of arguments and fights - which is why I like it here. I know I may have come down on the wrong side of an issue or two, but I have never felt that anyone here has ever held that against me. I've belonged to other forums like those hosted by some of the woodworking magazines and found them to be riddled with the steamroller tactics and elitists you refer to. I stay away from them.

    My two cents - David, you have, by this post, impugned the good nature of not only this forum, but the members and elected leaders thereof. This is something I will argue for.

    I have had the tremendous pleasure of meeting about 30 of the members of this forum face to face over the past 9 months and I can say without reservation that they have proven, through word and action, to be some of the kindest, most considerate, empathetic, generous, and goodhearted people God has placed on this planet. When I lost my wife last year to cancer about a dozen of these members opened their doors to me and allowed me to visit with them as I took a cross country trip to try and get my life back in order. many more of them traveled many miles, even across international borders, to meet with me at other member's homes. I was recently blessed by having a group of them stop at my home for a visit. My only regret is that I was unable to do more for them or spend more time with them during their visit.

    David, if you do not see that this forum is indeed different from all the rest in that it is a safe harbor for pro and novice alike to share their love of woodworking then you are refusing to see what is right in front of you. I cannot offer you any guidance on staying or leaving other than to say that perhaps you and this family are not a good fit. This places blame on neither and only recognizes that not everyone will be happy here, no matter how hard we try. Should you decide to stay I look forward to your sharing your experience in woodworking with those of us who are less experienced. Should you leave I sincerely hope you find a forum home that is to your liking.
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  8. #8
    Nothing here is going to change, it is what it is. So you can stay and ignore the people and things that bother you or go somewhere else. If you really think about it, it is no different here than any other forum... there are rules.. there are people above the rules... and people who don't like the rules. The rules are made by people who feel their morals are better than those *other* forums... but really it all boils down to "my way is right and yours is wrong".
    There are a lot of great people here with a lot to offer just as much as there are people here that could use a good dose of common sense.
    Currently, I'm on the "stay and ignore the people who just aren't worth the energy" boat since there are quite a few members that I enjoy chatting with and learning from.
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  9. #9
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    ABQ NM
    KaLea, with all due respect (and by that I mean all the respect that's actually due), shut up. When was the last time you posted on a woodworking-related topic? Same question to David Freed.

    You've been whining about "things will never change" and "people above the rules" and such for long enough. We get it. You're not happy. Fine. Get the sand out of your panties and deal with it. There are a number of rules and things here that I'm not particularly happy about either, but I'm not stamping my feet and whining about it at every opportunity.

    If you (and David and all of his invisible friends) are so freakin' unhappy here, then go buy the software, rent some web hosting, and start your own forum. We did it four years ago or so; you can too.

    And before you run off reporting this post too, keep in mind I'm not bashing. I'm speaking the facts.
    When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. - Hunter S. Thompson
    When the weird get going, they start their own forum. - Vaughn McMillan

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    No, not all of SoCal is Los Angeles!
    Let me refer, once again, to the chapter on the care and feeding of trolls . . . ah, here it is "feed a fever, starve a troll".

    Oh darn, I got tricked into responding again too!
    Last edited by glenn bradley; 04-24-2010 at 06:35 PM.
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