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    Value and Weight of wood question

    Okay, I am on the horns of a dilema. My Uncle (honorary not blood, but was closer and more influential than the blood uncle) lives in North Carolina. That is all I will say about an address. He has asked me to come to his woodshop and get his stash of wood because my Aunt will, (in his words) "just burn it when I die". He figures he has 4,500 - 5,000 bdft of rough cut lumber. General description, a little wormy chestnut left, mostly walnut, cherry, not much pine, and about 300 bdft of maple cut for some violin projects (ie; 15" wide, 2" thick, 8-10' long).
    First of all, what would a good estimate of weight be? (not holding anyone to task if I get fined after running across some scales! )
    He has asked me to talk to some people and see the value of this and make an intelligent offer. Any ideas?
    He is not physically able anymore to go dig through the pile so any questions that involve physical labor from him are not possible. But if you have any questions I can compile and call him to ask, that would be great. So,,,,,,I guess I need 3 things from those of you in the know.

    1. Weight?
    2. Value? or intelligent offer.
    3. Compilation of questions to ask to get more specific answers to questions numbered 1 and 2.

    Anything else relevant to this discussion is welcomed. Side divergent conversations welcomed also as I have a lot to learn.
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    As for weight, per fine woodworking oak has a specific gravity of .68 and cherry of .5, walnut similar, which puts them around 3.5 and 2.58 lb per bf completely dry. I have heard before oak typically arounds 4 lbs and cherry/walnut around 3 lbs per board foot with typical dry moisture content, which seems reasonable, if a bit coservative. Chestnut I believe is lighter as is pine, not sure on maple but it should be close for soft maple. So, somewhere around 3 lbs/board foot from what I've read should be a reasonable estimate.

    As for value, varies a lot depending on quality and sales conditions. In alabama from the prices I've seen on cherry/walnut are $1.50-2.00 for #1 common and 3.00-4.00/bf for FAS lumber. Maybe less for that kind of volume. Maple is close, pine is <$1/bf, but I'm not exactly sure. I would expect NC prices to be similar. Any figured woods of course can be worth much more. A large lot like that might sell considerably cheaper though if someone was trying to sell it fast.

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    Jonathan,
    Here is a weight calculator for the wood. Around here we would be paying around $4. db ft for that kinda wood. I wish I could give you a better answer but at least ya got a starting point.
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    I found a guy a couple of weeks ago selling walnut/cherry 1.50 - 2.50 bd/ft, maple 1.25 bd/ft. It's all rough cut air dried.

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    Weight total will likely be around 17,000 pounds for the 5K bd ft.

    Value? Dunno - quality of it will set that price. Probably average something like $1.50 ~ $2.00 bd. ft.

    If you buy it, you can swing North and drop off a bit of that 8/4 or 12/4 stuff at my house on your way home. You know, save some of the shipping weight. Less wear & tear on your truck that way...
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    hey jim get in line,, i asked first even if your closer..
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    I would expect the chestnut to cost more for bf

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    I greatly appreciate the answers so far. Still wondering so hoping some keep providing their answers. The discussions create some more questions for me and some of the discussions answer others for me. I am going to call Unc tonight, talk with him and try to get a straight answer on types and quantities. He and I talked in generalities last summer when he visited here. Otherwise he and my mom have talked and sent word to me through her. I did find out the farm is for sale so I do have a more immediate deadline.
    Yep, Larry has first dibs, especially if I drag him along on this trip and utilize his muscles and loading abilities! Quite honestly, there might very well be possibilities of wood for sale if I can't afford to hoard it all for myself! I have the storage shed space, but I have been broke so long the moths even died in my wallet for lack of food!
    Jon

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    Quote Originally Posted by larry merlau View Post
    hey jim get in line,, i asked first even if your closer..
    Actually I think you'll find that line starts behind me Larry.
    Your just cheating by getting in the truck with Jonathan.
    Oh wait a minute, Jonathan you take Larry south and I'll get us some walnut and fancy cherry.
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    if you met us half way chuck maybe we could take you along too but yu need to chk with jonathan i am the oldest so i can just supervize
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