Well I got the cedar canoe down from the ceiling of the shop to have a look at it and found it was in rougher shape than I remember it being in when it was put away 2 yrs ago. Well it started out as a re finish and looks like it is going to be a reskin as the glass had seperated from the cedar. So spent the day stripping the glass off the bottom of the canoe. Too bad I have no use for cedar toned old fiberglass as I have a box of it now. I have to take the gunwales off to get the last chunks and re finish them too. Looks like a complete over haul of the craft. As I have the motivation going I have to take down the cedar that has been sitting up on the ceiling for the past two years and get started on that Kayak I have been talking about. Oh I should say kayak's as Janet needs one too.