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    Li-ion drills

    My wife said she was thinking about getting me a new drill for our anniversary. I was previously looking at bosch 18v drills, I seem to remember them being ranked the best in a magazine review fairly recently. I have a 14v dewalt that I am replacing. I recently looked at some of the compact 12/10.8v stuff thats out and was impressed. We have some other dewalt 18v tools around and so we have several extra of those batteries so in some ways a new dewalt li-ion would make sense because of the compatibility. I don't hate the dewalts but we have had some problems with the clutch getting stuck and not shifting into drill mode. Any thoughts?

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    One brand, I forget which, guarantees their batteries for life. That is a real plus. I would look into that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Fusco View Post
    One brand, I forget which, guarantees their batteries for life. That is a real plus. I would look into that.
    I think that is Ridgid, from what I have heard though its not worth it because the quality isn't there. I don't have much experience with anything else except dewalt in the hand power tool realm. I have a bosch router that I really like. There is a dewalt, bosch, fein, milwaukee, service center nearby so that factors into my decision somewhat.

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    For home shop use, I've had the best luck with Makita. I bought an 18v Li-Ion drill a couple years ago and I love it. My experience with cordless drills has been that of poor battery performance. I have an old Dewalt, a Delta that's practically new, and two Makitas. The Dewalt and the Delta both have battery problems (the Dewalt has other problems too). The old Makita has a smart battery charger, once charged, it switches to trickle charge, so you don't over charge the battery. The new Makita with the Li-Ion is even better. There is circuitry in the battery that keeps track of the number of charge cycles, etc... Supposedly it charges/conditions the battery according to the condition of the battery. IMHO the battery is the weak point in cordless power tools, so I put more stock in quality battery technologies.

    About a year ago I got a Makita trim saw that takes the same Li-Ion batteries. So far, it has performed well too.

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    give me the pro and cons of compact drill/drivers vs full size 18v

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    I have 2 Dewalt 18v drill drivers both over 10 years old. Out of four battery packs 1 is dead, 2 are marginal and 1 is pretty good. I had to replace the motor on one and that cost me $22. Right now I don't even need to consider replacing the drill/drivers. I do have to decide if I want new battery packs or rebuild the ones I have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Black View Post
    give me the pro and cons of compact drill/drivers vs full size 18v
    For me it's the lighter weight and ease of use that makes me grab my 14.4v drills or impact drivers (two of each, all Hitachi) instead of either of the 18v drills (Craftsman and Ryobi). I'm seldom doing a task that uses the full charge of a battery...usually more like one or two holes (or a half dozen screws) then I'm done with it for the day. If it'll be more continuous work, I'll grab one of the 18v drills. And if I'm really gonna work it out, I'll grab a corded drill, either the old reliable Craftsman 3/8" of the Bosch 1/2" hammer drill (the Big Hoss).

    For someone who is drilling a lot of holes or driving a lot of screws, then I'd say the 18v models are probably worth the extra weight, but for me, doing little piddly things around the shop, the smaller ones are preferable. My next ones will likely be 12v or smaller Li-Ion powered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Black View Post
    give me the pro and cons of compact drill/drivers vs full size 18v
    What Vaughn said...the light weight, comfort, ease of use, etc. The micro drivers have ample power for most tasks. I've got a 19.2v Cman C3, a 14.4v Hitachi, and a 10.8v Hitachi....I reach for the 10.8v 9 times out of 10. If you want to drive 3" deck screws all day every day, you're better off with a bigger gun, but the micros will do "several" deck screws, and most other tasks with relative ease, and they'll fit in a lot places. Makita, Bosch, Milwaukee, Hitachi...
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    i to vote for the smaller size, i have 2 Panasonic 15.6 and they have been threw the war and back and are still going but got two Bosch that gets the nod alot these days.. one is the 10.8 and the other is a 14.4 brute for heady duty drilling it is much better than the the size suggested for drill. i havent got but would look at the Bosch compact impacts as well they are real work horses, the other brands that Scott mentioned are good too , Hitachi Milwaukee, makita.. but you need to handle those little compacts before dropping in for another dewalt big one..
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    I forgot to mention that we have 2 18v dewalt impact drivers that have good batteries. A few years back the family business finally got into cordless drills for our service trucks and we got drill/driver and impact combos for the trucks, I think at the time that the combo was like $20 more than just the drill. So the impact drivers went down to the shop. I almost exclusively use the impact drivers for driving screws so I am really just looking for a drill at this point, at least thats what I tell myself. Something I was just thinking about is I do a fair amount of metal work so I drill 1/2" holes in steel semi regularly. How well do the compact drills do with that type of thing?

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