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    Darren's Shop

    I thought that I'd start a thread for my shop layout ideas.

    I found a layout tool over on the CB Structures site and am now starting to see what the scale of my upcoming new shop will be compared to the tools, shelving, and other stuff I have...kinda overwhelming coming from a single car garage.

    http://www.cbstructuresinc.com/layout-planner/

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    Last edited by Darren Wright; 12-05-2011 at 02:55 AM.
    Darren

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    i thought you were dreaming already with the last couple threads yu started..i would run a partition in frt of the vehicles far enough ahead to have room for the other toys lawn mower, boat perhaps then use the rest for shop.. if i remeber right you have a over head door on the back right corner.. that would make good access for larger tools and for stuff to come out that is made and ready for delivery.
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    You are correct Larry, there is another garage door on the end. The last 20' of the back side is gravel as well, which I'm planning to use part of for lawn and storage of equipment.

    Some of the walls are insulated, but first priority (after house remodeling and moving) will be sealing up the building. Will need to look at options for insulating it there-after. It's got 12' side walls, and with the overall size, it's not going to be cheap, so partitioning may be the most economical option.

    Things I'm wanting to have in the garage are:
    • Woodworking area including space for the CNC router (and future larger version 5'X8')
    • Welding and metalworking area.
    • An office/sitting area with a beverage fridge.
    • Parking and place to work on vehicles and general mechanic stuff.
    • Lawn and outdoor equipment storage.


    Wish list:
    • Run a water and sewer lines at some point for a clean-up/bath/shower area.
    • Pour concrete in the gravel area.
    • Acquire a car lift


    The water and sewer lines may get done sooner than later since I've offered to put in a place for my parents to park their fifth-wheel when visiting.
    Darren

    To a small child, the perfect granddad is unafraid of big dogs and fierce storms but absolutely terrified of the word “boo.” – Robert Brault

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    well the 12ft ceiling will nice for the hoist!! as for the who gets what area.. i would use the work on vehicle part as the park area as well.. combine as much in there as you can comfortably.. you need to make some size requirements in the program you are using for the pic and move them around to see what they look like darren..even the beverage cooler needs a box to move around.. as for the sewer and water i would do it soon before you get other things in there.. look over the placement of that closely so it can work for your company and your other interest as much as possible
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    Aint it funny how we never seem to have enough. When we got say 1000 dollars all the things we want to buy are $1200. So we get a shop after having a single car garage and its pretty stressful now cause other interests start to rear their head and pretty soon what was a big space is now small. We have a lottery over here in Canada well last week it was $50 million. I ask a friend of mines young daughter (21) what she would like to do if she had to win the 50 Million.

    Well she said looking at a picture of an enormous yatch (not the kind with sails almost a liner) she would like one of those. So we asked her how you gonna keep it running. This thing had a full time crew of i dunno 20 or more people. Funny how soon it was not enough.

    There is a bunch of tough choices there Darren. I have turned over one about 5 times when i saw you mention the insulation and then the partitioning. Part of me would insulate the whole thing heck and partition it. I like Larrys suggestion of partitioning the car area but undoubtably you will end up heating the workshop area. However with winter and a potential need to work on cars, I would want to be able to open the partition in such a way (simple door) to be able to share the heat when needed and not loose a ton.

    I would also go the water etc route as a first step. Then concrete second primarily because it would put the whole area on the map for consideration since they would be on an even footing. Also that would make cleaning in that area way easier.

    With a single pad for the whole area and 12 ft height i would think of using my partitioning such that i get a degree of mezzanine storage in above certain parts of the layout and you need to think of that when you do the partitioning wall if its gonna carry load and face the right direction for a load bearing platform. Something like that would make for wood storage out of the rain besides other "stuff" we all hord.

    Another pro to insulating it is having storage that is non freezing in winter.

    Remember how quickly these places get small so start off as if you were in Stus dungeon cause very quickly it will feel like it.

    There is a saying that goes "a task expands to the time available"

    so does a shop "expand to the space available"

    I would still stick with all the space saving ideas we see guys with small shops do. Mainly because you still want to be able to move around and move projects you make around.

    What a nice journey. Will follow along .....
    cheers

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    Darren,
    +1 on water/sewer early vs late... if only for one reason... it won't ever be 'as easy' to do as it will now, before you fit out the whole building. ok, let the money spending begin.
    -Ned

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    Here's one idea, may change the bathroom layout a bit and put the door way to it in the office space, since that will be the area that will be heated 24/7 in the winter months to keep water lines warm (at least above freezing). The line across the rear garage door isn't a wall, just the edge of where the concrete ends right now.

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    so you are looking at only one vehicle under cover darren? and how wide is the second over head door? depending on what you wanting to do woodworking wize i think you may want your welding areas walled off from the wood area.. dust and grit doesnt go well with finishing..
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    Probably will only be parking my truck in the shop. Will be the first garage my wife has had since she met me that doesn't look like a garage sale is going on every day. I wouldn't be surprised if she painted it and put up curtains.

    Insulating the shop will have to be done first. I need to figure out how much the blow in insulation will weigh and determine if the trusses will support a light gauge metal lining and the cellulose insulation above it.

    I believe that they are spaced 5' on center and are 32' long, which is much closer than my BIL's shop, but he also has 2X6 trusses vs. the 2X4's that I have. I think I'll be ok, but will do the math before going down that path.



    Oh, I think the second door is 12' in width
    Darren

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    Found some good info on trusses here: http://www.public.iastate.edu/~mwps_.../tr_plans.html

    and some other good plans here:

    http://bioengr.ag.utk.edu/extension/...nhouse%20Plans
    Last edited by Darren Wright; 08-09-2010 at 07:00 PM.
    Darren

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