Well here is a vase i made for my aunt. It's 8 3/4 x4 1/2 With the finial it's 13 1/4. It will be going to NY as that's where she lives. That spalted bowl will be going with it also.Not sure if she will want the finial on it,but if she don't she can always keep it off. She asked me to make her a bowl and vase, so this is what i'm sending her. Hope she likes them, showed my mom them in a e-mail and she thought she would love them. This is my moms little sister so i hope she's right.