I ordered some wood carving books from Amazon on Oct.29th. Got an e-mail that they were shipped on Oct. 30th from Nevada. On Nov. 2nd they were in Hebron, Tennessee, just south of Cincinnati. On Nov. 3rd they were in K.C. Mo. where they proceeded to Lincoln, Nebraska by way of Hwy 2, which passes 1/2 mile from my house. Then they came back down Hwy 2 to Syracuse on Nov. 4th and I got them today, Nov. 5th. They didn't show any signs of wear, so the mule must not have stumbled any during the trip. UPS (United Prairie Schooner) doesn't do much better but they charge more.