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    Nice job Ken. Looks like it will make it another 73 years.

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    did yu have that tote laying around or do yu have allen helping yu in there ..that was way to fast for a new yorker to get done in one evening
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    Larry, you are on the ball! I had shaped the tote some years ago, but it was rough and had no holes in it, it was kicking around in my box of plane parts. So what I did yesterday was refine the shape with rasp and sandpaper, drill holes and apply finish. I made the knob yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Keeble View Post
    I like your new tote and knob but i am a fan of dark wood for this job.
    Point well taken Rob. I guess I've gotten used to the look of the LN planes, so the cherry is OK with me. I do like the feel of the old rosewood on vintage planes and drills. But this'll do for me.

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    rehabugly No. 5 rehab

    Nice job Ken, very nice.

    I have an old No.5 that needs attention. It has a good tote and knob, so that's a plus, but it has the plastic adjustment wheel, not all brass like yours. Older or newer?.

    I never seem to learn which way the iron should be installed, bevel up or down. The PO had it bevel down, as indicated by all the black paint on it.

    I'll look for my pix of it and post them later.

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    Tony, the black plastic knob is not a sign of poor quality. During WWII, brass was needed for the war effort, so Stanley used bakelite for the adjusters. You have a wartime era plane there. The bevel goes down.

    More info, courtesy of Mr. Patrick Leach:
    http://hyperkitten.com/tools/stanley....php#Type%2017
    Type 17. Planes made by Stanley 1942-1945.
    • All of the features of the previous, except:
    • These are the war production planes, and all bets about what is and isn't proper on these examples, and those made in the years immediately following, are off. This is an area where the type study is very weak, in my opinion. But it's understandable since there are so many configurations of these planes. My observations tell me that any combination of the following features is possible for these planes. And, to make matters worse, some of the examples have the standard features (rosewood, brass) of the previous type in conjunction with some of the features of this type. This all is likely explained by the fact that Stanley was using stock on-hand, where parts made prior to the war were simply being used.
    • Handle and knob are hardwood stained red or painted black.
    • Depth adjustment now is smaller, made either of steel or hard rubber.
    • Oddly, the bottom castings are much thicker and heavier than other models.
    • The type study doesn't mention this, but my experience tells me that nickel plated lever caps went belly-up during the war. The lever cap have a rather coarsely machined surface.
    • The type study also fails to mention this -- the normal two-piece construction of a brass cap and a threaded rod, used to secure the the wooden parts (tote and knob) to the bottom casting, is now a one piece construction (like a long screw).
    • Some examples have no frog adjusting screw. It's strange that on the examples I've seen, the hole is tapped for the screw in the bottom casting, but the frog isn't. It's like they did half the work, but all for nothing. On other examples, neither hole is tapped.
    • Some examples have the old-style hole (keyhole-shaped) in the lever cap.

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    Super job Ken! I thought it would clean up nicely, but wow...you really did an excellent job on the knob and totes!
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