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    I had a great 1st meeting

    Today I was asked out to lunch with 2 gentleman. When I get back from IOWA I have meetings being set up with 7 others who own or restore Antique cars. The wood portion is what they are interested in me restoring. So I will be getting the wood parts from this one shop just to see if my abilities are way past par. The lunch meeting went very well and It was like getting through the 1st interview.
    But one of the guys is a hunter so there was much more to talk about then just wood
    If this kicks off with a bang I look to be opening the other side of the shop again. Yahoo !
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    Bill Simpson might be able to shine some light on wood restoration in cars. I know he's done some.
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    dave, from what i learned from working on the model t wheel, the structural woodwork for the bodies were pretty much oak, and i cannot stress highly enough, the spokes for the wheels were hickory, and only hickory. it has both the strength and needed flexibility for this. oak, whether red or white, has a bad habit of shearing across the grain when used for spokes, and i have seen several pics of what happens after they shear. once one spoke goes, you lose the integral strength of the wheel, and the other spokes near the one that failed will also fail, and the wheel will seperate from the hub, and that's at a good walking speed. if they want oak spokes, convince them otherwise. if they won't be convinced, walk away from them.

    if you will be turning the spokes, here's what i learned. the angle cuts at the hub are 15 degrees, the tenon diameter for the one i rebuilt was 1/2" diameter, by 1/2" long. what i would do differently on another one, measure length of the turned body of the spoke from 1/16" in from the hub end, i measured from the overall end, and got burned short on the rim end, i would also make the turning blank about 1/16" wider, to eliminate the slight gaps that i encountered, not that noticable, but still too much to be used on a car.

    another thing i learned along the way, there are 2 different types of wheels. demountable, and non-demountable. the non-demountable wheels have wooden felloes, into which the spokes are pressed into, fitted into the rim, and the rim is heat shrunk onto the felloe. you can see the process in the film footage of ford's model t assembly lines. it is called non-demountable because you have to take the entire wheel off the axle to change the tire. the demountable wheels have a metal felloe (which is the one i have), and the spokes are press fitted, along with the hub, into the metal felloe for a very tight fit. that is why the blanks should be a little oversized for this fit. then the felloe/hub/spoke assembly is fitted to the actual rim, and secured with 4 bolts. with this type of wheel, all you need do is undo the bolts, and remove the rim/tire from the rest of the wheel, no need to take it off the axle.

    if you are going to be getting into the wheels, i can send you the info on making a wheel spoke press like the one i used.
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    Here's hoping it works out for you Dave!

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    Great Dave,, that means more room for critters on the wall and few more dollars in the pocket..
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    Sounds good Dave

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    Thanks Guys. I spoke to my brother in Fla yesterday and told him about the new venture. He LOL and said he had just finished a 56 woody. He refinishes BIG BOATS and his customers send him on road trips around the country doing there yachts and what I did not know is there classics cars. So he said any info I need let him know.
    He was telling me he uses a product called AwlGrip ? I'll have to look it up. Is this a product for high end rubbed finishes ?
    I'll move this question to Finishing
    Last edited by Dave Hawksford; 12-28-2010 at 02:25 PM.
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