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Thread: Making Rail & Stile Glass Doors.... Need some help....

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    Making Rail & Stile Glass Doors.... Need some help....

    Early in the new year I will be tasked with building a new stand up cigar humidor for the liquor shop. The cash register area is going to get a $50,000 facelift, and part of that will be a new cigar humidor. We are not paying for this, one of the tobacco companies is We are also getting a new sign for the shop out front too. They were going to provide humidor, but it was a particle board and plastic piece of poor quality junk that I would never put quality cigars into, they would smell like plastic and glue in a week

    The new humidor will be kind of like a China Cabinet, if that makes sense.

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    Some ideas.

    My first question is can anyone recommend a rail and stile bit set for glass doors?

    I'm looking hard at the new Freud set, this one >> Freud 99-763 << with the optional cutter for glass doors, I'm not sure if this is any good, but I figure it is not bad.

    Any opinions out there?

    Cheers!
    Last edited by Stuart Ablett; 12-28-2010 at 02:45 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by larry merlau View Post

    Thanks Larry!

    Do you have that set, or have you used it?

    Now I have to find a shop that will ship to Japan...
    Last edited by Stuart Ablett; 12-28-2010 at 01:52 PM.
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    I dont use a specail it. I use the profile I like, then will take a extra pass to remove to back part of the rail and stile. Then all I do is use silicon to glue it into place and add a small trim pice onto the back.This way it is easy to remove the glass if/when it gets broken.I watched a wiser cabinet maker use this method.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart Ablett View Post
    Thanks Larry!

    Do you have that set, or have you used it?

    Now I have to find a shop that will ship to Japan...
    i have sommerfileds set when they were orange,,and made by cmt. i used it on the blotchy box that came out ok i think.. and have made some other doors with it.
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    Thanks for the feedback Larry.

    Alan, I thought about that too, but the rails and stile bit set I do have, I don't like the profile for this job, besides, the price of the new bit set will be partial payment for my labour, so I am getting a new bit set

    Looking at a decent made in China, shipped to the US humidor of this type, will easily set me back $2500, so even with the price of the tooling I'll buy, the wood, and the humidification device, it will be way, WAY below that amount. The Monster-In-Law gets another great deal

    I may go for the Freud set, as I can get it at Rockler and they have a few other things I want on sale right now.... ah a few other things I "NEED"
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    Most glass sets that I have seen do not have very good glue area in the coped joints, unless you also dowel. I build glass doors like Al to get better strength. Silicone also stiffens the door using the rigidity of the glass, so they resist sagging over time.

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    too bad youre not here, Id give ya all the spanish cedar you need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart Ablett View Post
    My first question is can anyone recommend a rail and stile bit set for glass doors?
    A seperate rail and stile set is a waste of money for glass doors, unless you're banging out a rediculous amount of doors.

    I cut the backside out of the rails on the tablesaw then glue up the door like any other minus the panel. After its been through the widebelt I take a rabbet bit to cut most of the backside out on the stiles, then finish it off with a flush trim bit for laminate, (the non-bearing type)

    Boom. Glass door.

    Buying a separate set of cutters will never pay.
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    +3 on getting or using a regular door set and cutting the back. Depending on the end use I have cut a strip to fill in behind the glass. Or installed it just as you would in a window with glazing points and putty.
    It could be worse You could be on fire.
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