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    Permission to Enter - Stanley No 5 Question

    At least I think it is a No 5(?). Sure looks like this chipbreaker screw protrudes through the cap iron too much (I just learned all these terms so pardon me if I mess it up).

    This prevents the lever cap from functioning correctly. Should the screw be flush with the chip breaker when installed?
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    It does not look like you have it installed, as you need to pull the lever down on the lever cap. Loosen the screw enough on the lever cap to allow you to do that. Then the two contact points will be under the lever and at the far end of the lever cap. It should rise the lever cap above the screw then. Does that make sense?

    This is what my bench planes look like.

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    Here is a better diagram. What I am talking about is the lever cap locking cam needs to be in the down position which should raise the lever cap up above the screw.

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    Sorry I should have lowered the lever. I did not mean to confuse. The lever will lower but, the protruding screw does not allow the lever cap to sit low enough for the lever to make the spring apply any pressure to the chip breaker/cap iron.
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    It sticks through on all of mine. (just went out and checked) Looks like it sticks up a bit higher on yours than it does on mine. Mine stick through I would guess a strong 1/32" In the pic it looks like yours is closer to an 1/8"
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    Here are a few pictures of one my planes to give you an idea of what my configuration looks like. It is a Lie Nielsen, not a Stanley, but is probably close enough to give you an idea of what it should look like. My chipbreakers no longer look like the traditional stanleys as I upgraded them to the new improved version that Lie Nielsen has out. You will notice that the cap lever locking cam has quite an angle to it that significantly lifts the cap lever. My chipbreaker screw is like Chucks and protrudes only about 1/32 to 1/16 of an inch through to the other side.

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    Thanks Bill. That's just what I needed. I can now see that your screw protrudes as well. The other thing I can see is that your cam on the lever provides a LOT more range of motion than mine.

    Mine does not appear to have been ground down at all but, the difference between the spring's position with the lever up and the lever down is only about 1/16". This is inadequate to provide tension with the screw protruding as it does. I'll do some careful looking around to see some other examples of what is normal in the hopes that I can figure out which part is amiss.

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    Glenn,
    Some of the aftermarket chipbreakers - like the Clifton, Hoch, Pinnacle, or Lie Neilson could make use of your too-long (or at least overly long) screw. Maybe there's somebody out there that'd trade for their shorter one.
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    Welcome to Neandering Glenn.

    Surely this is not your first venture into this vortex.
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    Glenn, I got a cheap anant palne long before joining this forum and I had to grind down the blade screw ( the one that fixes the blade to the chipbreaker) by a couple of mm. as I had the same problem, however looking at your pics it seems that the tip of the yoke is also preventing the proper functioning of the cap lever.

    I may be wrong but that's what looks to me from here.
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    Thats a sharp eye you have there Toni. I would say you dead on afer a second look. Good spotting.
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