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    I love my home city, but.......

    Lemme just keep this thread completely non political.

    It seems a decade ago, I was issued a violation for a cracked sidewalk on a piece of real estate I own.
    I never received any notice, nor did any inspector come in as they often do if its a sanitation, water, dep, whatever, they all come into the store and ask for the owner of the building.
    Now, after finding out, by searching when about to sell, I have no clue what the city is talking about. I never did any repair work, the sidewalks are fine.
    I dont know if someone just entered it into the computer wrong, someone misread a summons, maybe the numbers were wrong, whatever, Id never leave a hazard because I know people love to take you to court.
    Ive been cited over the years for other violations,(late boiler inspection, dirty sidewalks, too much water in the toilet tanks, invalid carting sticker in the window, stuff like that) and always took care of them.
    I went to the Dept of Traffic today, the people that issue the summons.
    The building they are in also houses alot of other city offices.
    This is NYC, one of the most populated places on earth, so trust me, its a big building.
    To go in, I had to undress down to my teeshirt and socks, they left my pants on, but I had to take off my belt and the guard ran a wand over my groin like 4 times, cause the alarm set off everytime I walked through.
    Seems it didnt like me, cause noone could figure it out. Im not sure what they thought I had packed in my groin, but if the guard kept searching me I was about to tell him he had to first ask me out to dinner.

    After speaking to 3 people on the phone yesterday, seems I got wrong info, and had to go back home and get more paperwork together, and come back.
    So I did, and went through the unfriendly metal detector, but this time I was fine. And I need to sit when I put on my sneakers, and the only bench had 3 450 lb women on them, so I had to sit on a staircase and get dressed again.
    Kudos to whomever made that wooden bench, they never would have imagined the stress those wooden legs would have to take.

    Suprisingly, where I went was pretty empty, and it only took me 25 minutes and a credit card to pay for someone to come down and inspect the sidewalk again, the only way to clear a violation, even if it isnt mine. The city doesnt care.
    Going back to my car, was the real kicker of the day for me.
    The sidewalk for this building was in horrendous shape. Enough trip hazards to trip up even the most agile and balanced person. And there were patches of ice all over. The municipal lot, in back, some of the stairs were falling apart and the concrete under some metal stair treads, were crumbling and one wrong step could spell disaster to anyone if not repaired soon.
    And they gave me a violation for a cracked sidewalk which I never had. Not at least since Ive been the owner.
    I love my city.



    (I know this is non woodworking related, Im just sharing)

    and one more thing, the city employees were rather friendly, a bit confused it seemed, but polite and moved me along so I could get out of there.
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    Sorry to hear about your troubles. I've worked for the government for over 20 years and cringe when I hear stories like this. My guess is that somewhere along the line an ordinance, law, etc. gets passed, then a regulation is written to interpret said ordinance/law and then more years pass and various middle managers (like me ) become involved in its implementation and the end result is a lousy situation. My hunch is that the vast majority of interactions the city is involved with are handled properly but no doubt mistakes are made.

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    Kinda reminds me of the time the pastor of the church I went to asked me to do a walk through with the city inspector for a new multi purpose building we had built. We were on the roof when the inspector opened the box up for a fused disconnect for one of the AC units. He looked at the box and said "that ain't right I'm gonna make them change those fuses". I said "whats wrong with em" and he said "it say right here the fuse holder is rated for 50 amps and they only put 30 amp fuses in". When I explained to him that the fuse rating was based on the size of the load not the MAX rating of the hold and so long as the fuses were at or under the rating of the holder it was ok. To which he replied "Oh, is that how that works"
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    The worst part is that the city needs no proof on the violation.
    Its on record, no matter what.
    some clerk might have a 6 as a 5, or put a 12 instead of a 22, some time ago, maybe a decade ago, and it just sits in the computer system until something like this comes up.

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    just call it what it is allen, a legal shakedown....
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    I don't know why stories like that amaze me. You hear the horror stories about government ineptitude all the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Caughron View Post
    As John Denver said THANK GOD I'M A COUNTRY BOY

    Just what I was thinking Jay.

    Too much water in the toilet! Oh my gosh

    I guess it could be worse Allen. They could be like the IRS and charge interest and penalties.

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    Ive dealt with small middle of nowhere municipalities also in very, very rural areas, not so sure theres much difference, all villages and towns have their own set of rules.

    Yeah John, I was shocked when I had to call the water dept(DEP) because I thought the meter they installed on my property was leaking or misreading.
    The inspector immediately asked access to apartments and I was issued a summons because 2 toilets were approx 2 inches too high in tank and that is a waste of water. I had the handyman come in immediately and put in new floats.
    While I can see where it would be a waste of water, the city offers shower caps for fire hydrants that are turned on and left on 24 hours a day for weeks at time and that doesnt seem to disturb the DEP. I personally have reported open hydrants only to drive to work the following morning and see noone shut them off so the shower caps ran overnight and all morning without a kid in sight.
    Theres alot of things Im not quite sure make sense in big cities, but theres only so much anyone can do. You have to be very strong to fight and fight, and those days have passed for me.

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    Thats why I want to live at 40th and Plum

    40 miles Plum out in the stick.

    I am just no good in the city big or small I hate em all
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