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My shop has been invaded. Nephew and I are completely redoing his 1800 Oliver farm tractor. Along the way its also getting a heart transplant. Getting rid of the original Waukesha 6 Cylinder gas engine (roughly 80 HP) and replacing it with a 1988 12 valve 5.9 Cummins. Of course since its this far along, new seals everywhere and paint while we are at it

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Wade sitting next to whats left after the tear down, Thats just the transmission and rear end left. otice the poor woodworking tools have been shoved aside.

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PTO has been removed along with the Rock shaft and load sensing for the 3 point hitch. Top left of the photo you see a white thing on the floor, that,s the wheel center. Solid cast and weigh about 500 pounds each

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The new engine tub. The 5.9 won't fit in the Waukesha without extensive modifications. The replacement is from and 1850 Oliver that comes with a Perkins.

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One of the Bearings out of the Tricycle front end steering. I think its junk :D Its getting new upper and lower bearings and seals

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This is the tower for the steering. The bearing in the previous pic came from the bottom end of this

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The new heart!! 1988 5.9 12 valve Cummins 180HP Cleaned up and ready for paint

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Of course this meant some new tools, like the sandblast cabinet in the background and a new portable air compressor. Yes that was a tool gloat

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New Clutch, pressure plate, PTO drive hub and flywheel where installed. These parts are all new. Since this engine was never offered in this tractor the parts where Supplied by AGCO and come from a White 140. Also had to change the flywheel housing so we had something to bolt the rear mounts to. It came from a Gradall forklift

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Front cover was removed and fixed the Killer dowel pin. It's a lineup pin in the case that can come loose and fall into the timing gears. Not a good thing. Also had to add the side filler neck, Change the fan hub out, the tension bracket is different. Also had to get a shorter dipstick and the lower water neck has to be changed. Those parts where all Cummins. The round cover on the front gets changed out also. The Tach drive hooks up there. More Cummins supplied parts.

Lower right you can see one of the motor mounts we had to build

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Right front mount. The big hole above it is where the new water neck goes

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Final test fit. Everything lines up and bolted down. Of course it still has to come back out so I can run the new power steering and hydra power lines. Then paint the inside of the tub and the sides of the engine. you can also see the right rear engine mount I had to make.

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Final test fit. The critical part is getting the PTO shaft lined up. If it isn't right bad things happen. Thats the PTO shaft in the middle. It's has splines in 3 places, First its has splines in the back of the flywheel at the PTO hub so it turns all the time, Then it has splines in the middle for the hydraulic pump drive and lastly it has splines in the PTO.
 
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is thatt the old tractor that yu showed me that yu had just got rebuilt and it was trashed already with a spun bearing?? if so must be it died for good huh..i see your stayun busy???)))0
 
Larry that was my 1750, pretty much the same exact tractor except for engine, the 1800 was gas the 1750 was diesel. It's still alive.

Of there is tons of work yet to do Brent and lots of cash to be spent getting it done. Never mind whats all ready been spent on it. It's well up over $4000 so far. :eek:
 
I made sure to leave out the 'Why' and 'What are you gonna do with it' questions because I figured they were already way into the 'How' and the 'What does it need' and the 'When's :rofl:

Not my place to ask them questions, just good enough for me to watch it come together and be something awesome someday! :thumb: :thumb:
 
Brent
Why? Come on, we are guys, and because we can. What other reason would you need? :D

Actually its going to get used on the farm. It may make it to a couple tractor pulls :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Larry
Even figuring in $4500 paid for the tractor 6 years ago, we figure between $10,000 to $12,000. We couldn’t buy a field ready 180HP tractor for that. Plus we will know exactly what we have when it's done.
 
Brent
Why? Come on, we are guys, and because we can. What other reason would you need? :D

I know! That's why I didn't need to ask 'Why'. :thumb:

As in "Why do I have a '46 Chevy out back half restored". Because I'm lucky enough to have a wife who doesn't care, thats why! :rofl:

"Why" is not a question that get's asked very often around here... :thumb:
 
Ok, Well, here's a 'Huh?' question...

In Picture #9 up there you've got a wixey sitting on the block while it's hanging from chains? Whats up with that? :huh:
 
Man, you guys are hardcore. :thumb: I have only a limited idea how half that stuff works, but it's fun to watch other people when they know what they're doing.

Thanks for taking us along for the ride. Now that you got us started, you do know you've got to keep us updated as the build continues. ;)
 
Ok, Well, here's a 'Huh?' question...

In Picture #9 up there you've got a wixey sitting on the block while it's hanging from chains? Whats up with that? :huh:

just an assumption brent but he mentioned the line up was very critical, so perhaps the wixey would keep him in line with the points he needed to be exact..???
 
That's a nice 88 Dan. Nephew has a whole collection, some running some not. The current running stable includes an 880 diesel and a 77 diesel both of which he pulls in stock class.

His brother pulls a 70 Oliver, Great nephew pulls a Allis-Chalmers WD-45 diesel and my brother pulls his VAC case.

Brent
Larry was right. Lineup is critical. The engine actually runs uphill in the chassis. When i setup the tub is level. That meant the tranny/rearend was running uphill. The PTO is runs uphill at the same angle. We set the engine in, lined up the chain coupler. set the wixy on the tranny and zeroed it then set it up on that machined surface on top the head. Lowered the front end to zero and centered the front side to side. Then it was just a matter of leveling it side to side. Had to go back and forth a few times to get it right.

Wades cousin did a Gas/Perkins swap. He didn't get it quite right, The splines would start in but he had to bump it the last 3/4 of an inch. As a result it kept breaking pto shafts. Ended up building all new motor mounts for it.
 
Hope you keep posting progress pictures. I'm an antique tractor fan. I restored a 1956 Ford 851, in 2006. Great fun. Just something about the oldies I love and I'm not even a farmer. This is a picture of the day I got it started for the first time. Still was burning off the oil in the cylinders. Unfortunately, the rims on the rear wheel and the tires are bad and I can't afford to replace them. So for now it is a lawn ornament.
 

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must be nice to be able to know what youre doing to rebuild a tractor engine.
Some of the talent exhibited on this site is pretty impressive.

I almost owned my first John Deere a month ago, but the guy I was buying it from wanted way too much for used.
(uh, power washer)
 
Didn't get anything done today, hoping to get the inside of the tub and the sides of the engine painted tomorrow. Mainly because I won't have good access once it in for the last time

I know just enough to be a danger to myself and others.
There's a lot of folks here that do things I wouldn't ever attempt.
 
Finally got some more done,


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Drilled a hole in the bottom of the bell housing and added a hose to extend the grease fitting for easier access.


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Darn steering parts finally got here.


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Upper grease retainer and race installed


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Upper seal and bearing installed


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Lower bearing and race installed


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The lower grease retainer is no longer available. So I got two hole saws, 2 3/8 and 3 1/5. Cut out the larger one first, then cut the small one leaving me with a big washer


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There it is installed on the lower bearing



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The felt seal installed.


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Shaft installed along with the retaining nut


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Front end installed !!! :thumb::thumb::thumb:


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Getting ready to set the hydraulic unit on


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In place and in primer


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PTO unit installed, along with the rock shafts. Put new seals on the rock shafts and on the PTO control shaft.
 
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