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    planer and jonter question

    I am working on a kitchen island for my house. I bought some nice ash at a lumber yard and I am in the process of planning and jointing it.

    I ran into this problem: some boards have grain going in both directions. A couple of boards have grain change on the same face. When I run it through the jointer half of the board is jointed fine but then along the last half the grain changes direction and it dimples. If I run the board in the opposite direction the other side dimples up.

    Is there a solution to this?

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    Best solution is a drum sander (like the Performax), but it's costly.

    Another - more work intensive - method is a good smoothing plane, either with a high-angle frog (Lie Neilson) or a five~seven degree back bevel on the blade. A thick aftermarket blade works best for this, since the higher cutting angle will cause chatter.
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    If you do not need the long lengths cut them at the point where the grain changes and run them through that way. With plainsawn ash this can be a problem, and that is how I deal with it.

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    Ash can be tricky for grain reversals. If I were in your shoes, I'd glue it up and take the slab to a cabinet shop with a wide belt sander and have them sand it flat. I've done that with table tops and it works really well. Besides, it's a much better approach than losing all the religion that you likely would if you planed it by hand.

    The other approach is get yourself a world-class plane, something on the order of Holtey, Wayne Anderson, Ron Brese or Konrad Sauer. Of course, they will each set you back a lot of bucks. Then learn to sharpen, and I mean truly sharp. Here's a good demo of a sharp blade, both blade and plane made by Ron Brese.

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    I agree with the plane solution, but unfortunately, I am not that good of a woodworker. I wouldbe loosing alot of religion if I did that, as Bruce said.

    I think the idea of taking the glued up peices to a woodworker to run it through a large belt sander is the best solution.

    Still, I am thinking long and hard about getting me one...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce Haugen View Post
    Then learn to sharpen, and I mean truly sharp. Here's a good demo of a sharp blade, both blade and plane made by Ron Brese.
    Wow! I hate that guy. I mean, seriously, completely, absolutely hate him!

    How can he possibly get a blade that sharp, and get the plane so well adjusted??? Dang!

    Sheesh, that's impressive! Makes me want to just completely give up!

    Thanks,

    Bill

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Lantry View Post
    Wow! I hate that guy. I mean, seriously, completely, absolutely hate him!

    How can he possibly get a blade that sharp, and get the plane so well adjusted??? Dang!

    Sheesh, that's impressive! Makes me want to just completely give up!

    Thanks,

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    That's one long block of butter he's shaving there....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Gibson View Post
    That is sharp
    The Budweiser Clydesdales couldn't pull the plane across the board with my sharpening skills
    Quote Originally Posted by Brent Dowell View Post
    That's one long block of butter he's shaving there....
    You mean to tell me you guys can't do that? Sheesh. Amateurs. (The trick is all in the string. You've gotta have the correct string or it won't work.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Lantry View Post
    Wow! I hate that guy. I mean, seriously, completely, absolutely hate him! ...
    Sheesh, that's impressive! Makes me want to just completely give up!
    Can I have your tools, then?

    (Yeah, I hate him too. )


    Quote Originally Posted by Vaughn McMillan View Post
    You mean to tell me you guys can't do that? Sheesh. Amateurs. (The trick is all in the string. You've gotta have the correct string or it won't work.)
    The String? I thought it was the plane. What brand was it, anyway? We all need to rush out and buy one.
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