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    Phase out incandescent light bulbs

    Lets start out by saying I don't want to have any political discussion of the topic, I'm just curious what bulbs have worked well for others and the differences in them.

    If anyone wants to understand the reasoning more. There is a wikipedia article that covers the general information here.

    So, I've started to upgrade a few can lights in my house with the CFL bulbs as they seem to be left on the most. The first set I bought was a cheaper set from the blue borg and they have a warm tint to them. Difference I've seen with them is that they come on dim and brighten once they warm up. My wife actually likes these in our kitchen as they don't blind you right away first thing in the morning when the switch is flicked. It's probably only 10% dimmer in actuality, but noticable. There are 4 in the room and once warmed the room is brighter to work in, and I'm happy with them.

    We've already got fluorescents in our garage and laundry room. Part of the lamps in the basement have been upgraded as well with CFL, but they are the white bright bulbs and I don't care for them, will look for a warmer tint when they need replacing.

    Overall, I've probably replaced enough bulbs to compare to a small space heater running 4 - 6 hours a day, so we'll see over the next couple of months how that looks on the electric bill.

    Anyway, I noticed several type and costs of the bulbs at the store, I mostly bought the cheapest. I'm sure some of that is branding, but what other features should one look for if they are going to get CFL bulbs?

    Also, has anyone gone to LED lighting and if so, what has been your experience? Until recently I hadn't seen any that gave a nice glow, hopefully that is changing. I looked at some for the can lights, I'm sure that would make up pretty quickly with savings and the long life, but couldn't justify spending the $40 per bulb right now.
    Darren

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    Since that is almost all that is available anymore we are switching as need arises. I don't like them, especially the part about coming on dim. Disposal is a huge irritation. I just trash them. Naughty me but I figure the economy is lost in storing the taking time to drive to a disposal unit....fuss and bother I'm not going to do. And, I have had early failures. So much for the longer life.
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    I've been buying the cheap cfl's for the house so far, haven't had any problems with them. I love the LED flashlights, but the price of the bulb atm outweighs the power savings. If the CFL's didn't exist I would consider them, but to me the extra power savings/life doesn't justify the cost premium over CFLs to me.

    It really make me wonder though how they can make such cheap flashlight LED's and the house bulbs cost so much? Is it the electronics/transformer or something inside the bulb that could be installed at the breaker panel for multiple lights instead???

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    We've got them all over the place, and have very few incandescents left, except for the halogen MR16s in the kitchen & dining room ceiling lights.

    Oh yeah, and also the 'tennis ball shaped' miniature based ones in the bathroom lights. So far as I know, they don't make CFLs for those yet, and the LED versions of those are prohibitively expensive - I'd need then of them, and at neary $30 each, that's just too much!

    Some CFLs are marked "Use base-down Only" so they're out for ceiling fixtures, etc. Some also warn that they shouldn't be used within a covered globe, so they're out for many ceiling uses, too.

    We like the lights, but they do have some obvious limitations.
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    Costco used to give out free 10-packs a few years ago and I guess we just stockpiled 'em. I'm tempted to stockpile incan's now because some things just don't convert well; appliance lamps, so on. 50/50 on the initial startup power...it's ok sometimes and sucks others. I'm with you Frank...don't force me to use something and say “disposal cost is up to you.” So...into the trash they go.
    I bought about 20 cases of R12 refrigerant before the ban. My BMW would cost about $3000 to convert to HFA coolant…yeah, right. I made a killing (enough to re-upholster the interior) selling it to other classic car guys because of the same restriction. I think there about 10 cans left…just enough for me!

    It really make me wonder though how they can make such cheap flashlight LED's and the house bulbs cost so much? Is it the electronics/transformer or something inside the bulb that could be installed at the breaker panel for multiple lights instead???
    I don't know Jeb...I have a shake light from AC/Delco that is an LED and you shake to power it...my uncle gave it to me for Christmas a few years ago. The LED flashlights we use on DMAT are 1 AA battery and light up an entire room...but $32 bucks apiece...ouch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim DeLaney View Post
    Some CFLs are marked "Use base-down Only" so they're out for ceiling fixtures, etc. Some also warn that they shouldn't be used within a covered globe, so they're out for many ceiling uses, too.
    Good info Jim! Might explain why some have gone out so quickly when used in overhead light bases.
    Darren

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    LED

    HD has LED lights for about $20.

    Color wise, we really like how they look.


    Turns out they are made local in Melbourne, FL.

    Sad story - CEO of LED company (young guy) took a fall off his bike (non motor) broke neck and died.

    Watch the CFL's - with age they yellow and if switched often will have a much shorter life.

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    They have mercury in them.

    Don't trash any fluorescent lamp, including linear, U-tube and circline fluorescent tubes, bug zappers, tanning bulbs, black lights, germicidal bulbs, high output bulbs, and cold-cathode fluorescent bulbs

    Also be aware that the following lamps also contain mercury: high intensity discharge bulbs, including metal halide, ceramic metal halide, high pressure sodium, and mercury vapor; mercury short-arc bulbs; and neon bulbs.

    If you break any of these lamps sweeping it up is NOT going to clean the area safely.

    www.epa.gov CFL Cleanup

    Be considerate, take care of yourselves, your families and generations to follow.
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    A person who shall remain nameless buys her CFL's based on price. They have been re-replaced a couple times. I am running the same Sylvania curlies I installed when I moved into my current house in 2005. Some G.E.'s didn't last very long but there are grades within a branding. Some interesting fodder here: http://www.popularmechanics.com/home...4215199?page=2
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    So I'm guessing smashing the 8' flourescents with a hammer so you can fit the pieces in the trash can is frowned upon? I think alabama is probalby a little behind on the disposal, I haven't the faintest clue where to go here to dispose of mercury containing bulbs.

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