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    New Impact Driver

    A while back during the second Aparto Renovation, I bought a couple of Hitachi Impact drivers that was June 2009, so two years on and of the four batteries that came with the two drills, only one will hold a charge.

    I think I now have six cordless drills with two batteries each and chargers that are basically junk I decided that I would bite the bullet and buy a new "Good" one and be done with it.

    I was really looking hard at the Makita impact drivers, the 14.4v Lithium Ion units, they do look great, but at the store they had the newest Hitachi Lithium Ion units on sale.

    The Makita 145 Nm (107 lb ft) weighs 1.45Kg(3.2lbs)
    The Hitachi 160 Nm (118 lb ft) weighs 1.3 Kg (2.8lbs)

    the kicker was the Hitachi was on sale! Regular 56,000 yen ($700) on for 39,800 yen ($487) the Makita was 49,000 yen ($611)

    I ended up with the Hitachi following me home!





    I sure hope these new Lithium Ion batteries are all they are cracked up to be, I'm getting tired of the stack of worthless cordless tools I have laying around.

    I should maybe cord a few of them, like our dearly departed Nikki used to do...

    >> Cording Cordless Drills <<

    ... but for now, I think I like this new Hitachi.

    The LED light comes on with the touch of a button, and if you forget to turn it off, it turns it self off after a few minutes. The speed is controlled by how much you push the trigger, but it also has three speed settings , 0-500, 0-1200, 0-2000, and 0-2600 rpm. The battery takes 22 minutes to fully charge.


    Yep, I think I'll like this impact driver!

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    Hey!!! Get that philips head bit out of there. Where's your good Canadian Robertson tip?

    I'm don't wanna sic the embassy on you.








    ps: weird seeing Hitachi in blue. It's all green on this side of the pond.
    I got a set of the compact hitachi's, (this and this: two kits means 2 chargers + 4 batts, so I'm good for a while) and I really like them for around-the-shop.

    But I think if I were shopping now I'd take a hard look at the Rigid, due to the lifetime battery warranty...
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    I think the Lithium Ions are much better than the nicads, but most likely they will eventually die as well.

    Did you give any thought to getting the battery packs rebuilt?

    I really don't understand why replacement batteries seem to cost 90% of the cost of buying a new tool. Guess it's a marketing ploy to get you to buy new

    Hey, Can you tell me what the purpose of the impact driver is? I've never had one of the cordless impact drivers. I've never had any problem driving screws and such with my regular cordless drills. But I have been seeing more and more of the impact drivers on the market.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brent Dowell View Post
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    Hey, Can you tell me what the purpose of the impact driver is? I've never had one of the cordless impact drivers. I've never had any problem driving screws and such with my regular cordless drills. But I have been seeing more and more of the impact drivers on the market.
    That is what I said until Makita had a sale - buy a drill and get a free impact driver, or vice versa. For the past several years I have used the impact driver all the time, and haven't driven a screw with the drill - it is that much better. The impact driver spins fast at first, then switches to impact mode when the screw gets tight - it sounds like an auto repair shop. I have driven 1/4 inch or so lag bolts without a pilot hole, no problem (even hard enough that the bolt sheared before the driver gave out). Yet with all the power, almost never strip a screw head. It appears to be efficient too - the unit is lighter, and the battery lasts much longer than when I used the drill as a screwdriver.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brent Dowell View Post
    Hey, Can you tell me what the purpose of the impact driver is? I've never had one of the cordless impact drivers. I've never had any problem driving screws and such with my regular cordless drills. But I have been seeing more and more of the impact drivers on the market.
    I used a DeWalt 18 volt to drive 1/2" lag screws into treated lumber. Easy--much easier than using the drill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Plesums View Post
    That is what I said until Makita had a sale - buy a drill and get a free impact driver, or vice versa. For the past several years I have used the impact driver all the time, and haven't driven a screw with the drill - it is that much better. The impact driver spins fast at first, then switches to impact mode when the screw gets tight - it sounds like an auto repair shop.
    Very interesting... That makes sense. Thanks!
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    Yep, I upgraded to the makita when adding the lean to's onto the big barn. What a difference! Hard to describe or imagine but once one is in your hand and working, you will not grab a drill to drive a screw again! Congrats Stu, looks like a good one.
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    I've had better luck with my Li-Ion batteries than the Ni-Cad in general. Doesn't Hitachi now offer lifetime warranty on their Li-Ion batteries?
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    Congrats on the new tool, Stu.

    We use Milwaukee 12v lithium ion drill/drivers a lot every day at work, and I'm sold on the li-ion batteries compared to the nicads. We typically get about a week of work out of a battery before it needs to be recharged. For most of what we do, the regular drill is all we need for driving screws, although occasionally we have to drive long lag screws into studs to install heavier pieces of art. A few weeks ago, I discovered Perry (my boss) has had a Milwaukee 12v impact driver in the truck for a year or so, but had never used it...he didn't really know what they were useful for. Last week we were hanging a large heavy piece and he was having a heck of a time driving the screws to install a cleat, so I went out to the truck and grabbed the impact driver. (After a year or more in the truck, the battery was still nearly fully charged.) I had to cajole Perry into trying it, but all it took was one screw, and he was sold. His eyes opened wide with amazement, and he was grinning from ear to ear. He had no idea that driving a 4" lag could be so easy.

    A few years ago I bought the Hitachi 14.4v nicad drill, and shortly afterward I got the matching impact driver impact driver. Each of them came with two batteries, so I had a total of four. After a year or so, the batteries were getting to the point where they weren't holding a charge very well at all, so I decided to get more batteries. I found that I could buy a single battery for $50, or a refurbished impact driver with two new batteries for $49.95. So now I have a drill and two impact drivers and six batteries. But as expected, the new nicad batteries are getting pretty wimpy (won't hold a charge overnight), so the whole set has become a hassle to use for any extended period of time. I can drill a few holes or drive a few screws, but if I need to use the drill or driver periodically throughout the day, I need to swap batteries out one or more times to do it.

    Because of my experience with nicads, I've decided that any new cordless tools I get will be li-ion powered. To get me started on that route, Perry bought me my own 12v li-ion Milwaukee drill and impact driver - with four batteries and two chargers - as a bonus for a couple of good weeks at work. (They're for use in my shop...I use his tools on the job.) Milwaukee has a pretty extensive line of tools and gadgets (including an electric-heated jacket) that run on their 12v li-ion batteries, so I think this will be a good form factor to stick with for a while.
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    Sometimes I wish we had a 'like' button for posts here. That's some great info Vaughn...
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