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    Essential Band Saw Blade Set - Ellis Blades Received

    So,

    Lets say you had a Delta 15" 14" bandsaw with a riser block that takes 105" blades. What would you consider to be the 'essential' set of blades for the saw?

    My blades are all junk. and I was thinking of going to some vendor and ordering an assortment of new blades.

    I'm also looking for your preferred vendor.

    Thanks!
    Last edited by Brent Dowell; 09-08-2011 at 02:05 AM.
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    First, I thought the 14 inch with riser block took a 105 inch blade. Is yours a 14 or 15 inch saw?

    No question, I would go with Timberwolf blades from Suffolk Machinery. The web site has lots of info, but you have to phone to order. Operators know more about bandsaws that I will ever know.

    I primarily use my 14 inch saw for curve work so normally keep a 3/16 inch blade on it, with a fairly high number of teeth.

    Sometimes I cut bowl blanks on the 14 inch saw, so use a special Timberwolf blade with a wider set for green wood, 1/2 inch blade, few teeth per inch.

    When my 14 inch was my primary bandsaw, I had marginal luck resawing - 3 times in a row it would work perfectly, then the fourth time it would destroy the workpiece. (I now have a second bandsaw for that work). But if you only have one, I would look at a 3/4 inch blade, or even a Woodslicer from Highland, or a Bladerunner from Iturra (same blade). It is very thin (.022 inches rather than the usual .035 or so), works well with the lower tension possible on a small saw, but as a thin blade doesn't last as long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Plesums View Post
    First, I thought the 14 inch with riser block took a 105 inch blade. Is yours a 14 or 15 inch saw?

    Whoops, 14", That's what I get for not proofreading...
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    For me it is one 1/8", two 3/8X6 and two 3/4"X4.

    Dunno the tooths on the eighth incher and am currently too lazy to go count.
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    Suffolk (Timberwolf) makes an excellent blade, but it's way overpriced in my opinion. (Gotta pay for the marketing somehow.) My recommendation for suppliers is Ellis. Every bit as good as (or better than) the Timberwolf blades I've used, and at 1/3 the cost. Look at the 'flexback' models toward the bottom of this page. They have a $50 minimum order, and you have to call it in instead of doing it online, but you can mix and match your order, so it's a great way to stock up on an assortment of blades. I've been VERY satisfied with their blades and their service. I've also seen no tangible difference between a plain ol' hook tooth 3 tpi blade and the specialty "green wood" blades that are sold by various vendors.

    I will second Charlie's recommendation on the Woodslicer for resawing, though. Pricy, but much better than any of the other blades that have been recommended to me for resawing.

    Personally, I use the 1/2" 3 tpi hook tooth blades the most, but that's because I'm primarily rough-cutting wet and dry turning blanks. For general purposes, I like a 1/4" 6 to 10 tpi blade, although most of the time I just hack it out with the rough-cutting blade since it's already on the saw. For tighter curves, I keep a 3/16" 10 tpi on hand. I've used three different 3/4" blades, and haven't been impressed with any of them. My suspicion is that the 14" saws don't have the ability to tension a 3/4" blade the way a bigger saw can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Plesums View Post
    When my 14 inch was my primary bandsaw, I had marginal luck resawing - 3 times in a row it would work perfectly, then the fourth time it would destroy the workpiece. (I now have a second bandsaw for that work). But if you only have one, I would look at a 3/4 inch blade, or even a Woodslicer from Highland, or a Bladerunner from Iturra (same blade). It is very thin (.022 inches rather than the usual .035 or so), works well with the lower tension possible on a small saw, but as a thin blade doesn't last as long.
    Quote Originally Posted by Vaughn McMillan View Post
    I will second Charlie's recommendation on the Woodslicer for resawing, though. Pricy, but much better than any of the other blades that have been recommended to me for resawing.
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    My suspicion is that the 14" saws don't have the ability to tension a 3/4" blade the way a bigger saw can.
    That's one of the biggest reasons I'm looking at this. Not much luck with resawing with my current crop of blades.

    Great advice guys!
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    ellis for the source and a 3/16, or 1/4' for the small stuff and i agree on the 1/2' wood slicer on the smaller saws.. and highland will take care of you as well.. call ellis up and ask them there thoughts brent they are very willing to help you out..
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    Brent, I have used both the Timberwolf blades from Suffolk and the flexback blades from Ellis. The Timberwolf blades are very good blades. I bought blades from Ellis and found them to also be very good blades. I re-sawed 10" wide walnut with a 1/2 inch blade from Ellis and it cut like butter.

    Suffolk will have a sale and price their blades with a buy 2 get 1 free deal every once and a while and that helps with the overall price.

    The Timberwolf blades from Suffolk were about $19.00 each. Shipping & handling charges from Suffolk was about $7.00.
    The same blades I got from Ellis where about $11.00 each. Shipping & handling from Ellis was about. $15.00.


    When all was said and done after shipping and handling costs the blades from Ellis are cheaper and they are good blades. You do have to spend a minimum of $50.00 but if you need several different sizes you will meet that pretty quick anyway.

    So to sum this all up......my recommendation is......if you only want/need one or two blades......buy the Timberwolf blade from Suffolk.
    However if you want to stock up and buy several different sizes at once then you can get a very good quality blade and save a little money overall when you buy from Ellis.

    PS....I forgot to add that I like using 1/4" and 1/2" blades......3/4" for rough cutting bowl blanks though.
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    Tom, it looks like the Ellis blades have gone up a bit since I last checked with them a few months ago. (I was researching this subject for some guys on another forum.) I was quoted somewhere around $8 per blade in the 105" length, and at the time, the comparable Timberwolf was priced at about $21.
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    Well, Sounds like Ellis is the place to go. I doubt I'll have a hard time getting the minimum order ready, as I'm just going to throw away all the blades I currently have. Sure, I can measure the width and TPI, but all I know is they all cut like a dull butter knife, and a hundred bucks spent on new blades (with multiple backups for each size) would be money well spent.

    I'll give them a call in the morning.

    Thanks!
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