Got this box from Jim Burr today. inside were these two great looking pens. I had sent him some stuff and this was a thank you gift from him. Now as most here know i don't turn pens, this is the reason why. there is no way i can come close to what he sent me. Thank you man, and if there is anything i can do for ya just ask. Btw he made the red one for my wife and the other for me. He'll have to chime in here and tell us what they are and what there made from as like i said i don't do pens.