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    Building a forge.....?

    I know, I know, just what I need, yet another project.......

    Found this one........Zoller Forge Looks simple enough....

    I've got to source a place for the parts, but I'm wondering if a pottery place that sells kilns would have this stuff...?

    Anyone here built a forge?

    I want it to heat metals for heat treating and shaping, not looking for a huge unit.......

    Cheers!

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    Stu,

    Did you see this one? Same main site, another page..

    http://www.geocities.com/zoellerforge/miniforge.html

    Too small?

    Greg

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    Actually that is the one I meant to link to....


    should be just the size for heating up steel and or making some sharp stuff now and then.

    Cheers!

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    Stu,

    That is not a bad little forge, and the micro-forge I was talking about is even easier, but the mini-forge on Zoeller's page looks pretty good (probably the best I've seen) with a 1 lb. mapp tank.

    (linky pic - I used one like this little firebrick, it heat up 1/4" square stock no prob)




    Most of these micro and mini forges are more than enough to do edge tools, as you might be interested in. Those mapp tanks will get expensive though, I have to pay $6/lb at Home Depot. They are convenient for a very portable solution for small stock, and if you have ether propane or mapp, either 1 lb. tank will work. You can get propane for $10-$12 for 20 lb. if you have a tank. Storage and size, the nod goes to the 1 lb. tanks.

    Then you can see bunches of burners available on Zoeller's site, Ron Reil's site, and Rex-Price's site. I decided to go with the Rex Price T-Rex burner, which has a 45 day backorder...but it seems like money well spent in the sense it can be used on various forges, and will take a 20/lb propane tank and providing a good solid forge.

    I really think Ron Reil's freon tank mini-forge is what I want to build.



    Any type of can, pipe, freon tank, propane tank, etc...will work. It's the kao wool that provides most of the containment.

    Even Zoeller's mini-forge with the 1 lb. tank (mapp will get it hotter) is pretty capable and could certainly forge any type of chisel or draw knife, scorp, adze, plane blades, hammers, etc...just fine. You also wouldn't need too big of an anvil and could use a railroad rail section (gotta be some of that in Japan, if you could find it...there's certainly enough trains...;-). You could probably even buy some type of ASO, like a Grizzly, Harbor Freight, other, that are made in China, some are made in Europe, probably some in the states also. Maybe you have an anvil already, but you'll need something to hit on.

    One last thing I just wanted to mention, is that it's very difficult to forge anything once you start shaping it. IOW, if you want to bend a draw knife, you will need to be able to fit that section in the forge if you want to continue forging. Some things you can bend and be done with it, if you get it right. I used a micro-forge that was so small, once the 1/4" square stock was bent, it wouldn't fit back in. It was a one shot bend. This is why larger and more open forges are desirable. However, for lots of small hand tools, you don't need that.

    For more info, check out

    You might even see Jr. Strasil over there!

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    Thanks for the info Alan.

    I do have a chunk of railway rail, cost something like $10.

    I'm going to be getting some wood from a Ginko tree in a few weeks, I think I'll make sure I get a good piece to act as a stump for the anvil.

    I know I can get LPG tanks at Joyful....

    Cheers!

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    Now those are what I call small forges! I did a lot of work with a forge when I was in High School and it has been in the back of my mind that I would like to try it again some day. I never even thought that forges this small could be made, but now that I know they can, that day might be much sooner. Thanks for the information guys!
    Cheers, Frank

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    Stu, if you have the railroad rail, you should be good to go on edge tools. You shouldn't need too big of a stump for it, and you can probably sit down for small stuff if you had to. The Japanese sit on the ground when they forge, with no shoes...scary stuff...the smith requires I wear steel toed boots at the smithy, but there's a lot of heavy stuff around there.

    I'm glad he did it, because I used to wear sandals in my shop at home and it's been bothering me as I know a couple folks that have dropped chisels on their toes, it will go through to the bone if the edge hits.

    Frank, it's amazing how small the forges can be built. You can create excellent edge tools in one of these very small forges. Good luck if you venture to do that.

    Thanks for bringing me to FWW! Although Tod invited me, it was because of you and Jeff that I left that other site on the web...with that behind us, looking forward to FWW gaining more membership. It's growing pretty quick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan DuBoff View Post
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    Frank, it's amazing how small the forges can be built. You can create excellent edge tools in one of these very small forges. Good luck if you venture to do that.

    Thanks for bringing me to FWW! Although Tod invited me, it was because of you and Jeff that I left that other site on the web...with that behind us, looking forward to FWW gaining more membership. It's growing pretty quick.
    Alan, it is good to hear that I am part of the reason for you being here. Together, we can build a real community at this site.
    Cheers, Frank

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    hey alan, how `bout extending an invite to jr.? i for one like to hear what he has to say.....tod
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    Tod,

    I just sent Jr. an invite in PM over on IForgeIron, he does hang out on there, and I even saw him in the chat room a couple days ago (which I don't hang out in much).

    His back has been bothering him, so keep that in mind, he really hasn't been using the computer much at all. I suspect he'll be here, and most welcome when he comes, certainly.

    Funny, when I first met him over on the other internet woodworking site, he posted a off-humor joke which I missed about a tailed old woodworking machine, and we started off on the wrong foot, unfortunately...but I've really grown to appreciate him, what a good 'ol galoot he is...(and I mean that in the best way! )

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