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    Steve,
    Yes we do have gable vents. Again thanks for the advice You and Larry gave me exactly what I was looking for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Beland View Post
    Steve,
    Yes we do have gable vents. Again thanks for the advice You and Larry gave me exactly what I was looking for.
    hey steve,, how would you get more air low for him? i saw the gable vents but they dont look like they are big enough..??
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    Just a caution.

    Cellulose...... we used to vacuum this out of buildings because it loses it's fire retardants in about 5 years then it's just ground up paper like product that goes up like a roman candle. I know several contractors that wouldn't install it with out a signed release of responsibility in case of fire. We had sales men come calling trying to sell us on cellulose all we ever did is get a hand full from the vac truck & drop a match on it poof gone in a flash & so was the sales man. Two words for batt insulation & blown in insulation fiberglass or rock wool. Kraft faced face it inward with the tabs against the sides of the studs & staple it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by larry merlau View Post
    hey steve,, how would you get more air low for him? i saw the gable vents but they dont look like they are big enough..??
    larry you can install power vents. They are just wirly vents with a fan that's set on a thermostat. when it reaches a certain temp it will draw the heat out.

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    Bart,
    I didn't know that. So I should say I don't want cellulose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Beland View Post
    Bart,
    I didn't know that. So I should say I don't want cellulose.
    i have done that test,chuck with my old cellous,, and it burnt not poof but burnt.. i used fiberglass blown i my shop attic and and i think i redid my house with cellous last time,, the stuff from older times did loose it fire retardency..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Beland View Post
    Bart,
    I didn't know that. So I should say I don't want cellulose.
    Well as far as I'm concerned until I see some cellulose that is at least 35 years old that doesn't burn I'll not use it.

    When the house has burned down it's to late & it's the hardest way to prove that the fire retardant ability isn't there any more.
    Last edited by Bart Leetch; 11-07-2011 at 01:20 AM.
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    My house has had cellulose insulation for over 25 years and the house that my parents lived in has had it for over 40 years.

    My questions:

    1. Is there research supporting that cellulose insulation loses the fire retardant in 5 years? If so, where can I find it?

    2. Is there research indicating that there is a higher incidence of fire in homes insulated with cellulose as opposed to other types?

    3. If it is so dangerous, I wonder why cellulose insulation would be accepted in the building codes.

    Thanks,
    Ike

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    You can do your own research take some out & try & light it that should be convincing enough. Personally I hope it doesn't burn. The big question in my mind is when does the fire retardant no longer retard fire & where am I and my family when this happens? I used to know a few insulators who required a consent to install form signed that released them form any responsibility should a fire occur. The only reason they would install it is if the customer insisted & the reason the customer insisted was because it was the cheapest insulation available. Cheap isn't always safe. I personally never saw a load of Cellulose that we vacuumed out of a house that wouldn't light & burn real easy . Steel wool & fiberglass have been around a long time & are proven insulations.
    Last edited by Bart Leetch; 11-07-2011 at 02:57 PM.
    "Forget the flat stuff slap something on the spinny thing and lets go, we're burning daylight" Bart Leetch
    "If it ain't round you may be a knuckle dragger""Turners drag their nuckles too, they just do it at a higher RPM"Bart

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    Here is a link to some information I found while looking for answers to my questions.

    http://rtek-insulation.com/cellulose...resistance.htm

    Ike

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