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    Time to Get a Stun Gun

    I took my dog Sasha to the park across the street Tuesday night for her nightly walk, and within minutes of getting there, she got jumped by a pit bull. (He was off the leash, Sasha was on.) He trotted up, sniffed her a few times as he body checked her a time or two, then with no warning (other than body language) clamped down on her neck and the side of her face. I kicked him a couple of times with no effect, then I grabbed him by the rear flanks and lifted him completely off the ground and was starting to lift Sasha (about 60 pounds) off the ground, too. (He was wearing a spiked collar, so I wasn't real interested in grabbing him by the neck.) His owner came running up yelling at the dog (I was also yelling at him to get his dog off mine) and he immediately started slugging the dog on the side of the head like a UFC fighter. This guy was bigger than I am and he was hitting so hard you could hear the pop every time his fist hit the dog. After a dozen or so blows, the dog finally let go and we got the two dogs separated. The guy was apologizing profusely and didn't hesitate to offer his name and contact info in case Sasha needed to go to the vet. I checked her out closely with a flashlight and found no blood, so I told him I didn't need his info. He explained that the dog was his son's, and he was taking care of it for a few days while the son was out of town. (He was as mad at the dog as I was.) He was carrying a leash and said the dog had gotten away from him...I suspect he was letting the dog roam in the empty park, and when we showed up at the park the dog took off on him.

    When I got back to my apartment, my first thought was that I was going to start carrying a gun when I take Sasha on her walks. New Mexico is an open carry state...I can legally walk down the street with a loaded firearm on my hip as long as it's clearly visible. Upon further thought though, I realized that if I were to discharge a pistol in a city park I'd probably have worse problems on my hands than a dead dog. I also suspect I might have some problems with the neighbors if they were to see me walking around the apartments wearing a gun. But an electric stun gun like this can be legally carried in my back pocket, and would turn a dog into a quivering puddle of protoplasm in about five seconds. I've felt the effects of a very short burst from a stun gun in the 100,000 volt range, and in a demonstration have seen the same gun lay a 240 pound martial arts fighter on his back in seconds. I suspect a 5 million volt gun would be even that much more intense.

    So the stun gun will be my Christmas present to my dog.

    Well, that's how my week's going. How's yours?
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    How's the back after this adrenaline rush and vigorous workout?
    Sasha okay once back in the light of the apartment?
    If the dog has your dog, will the stun gun stun both?
    My week started off horrible, not wanting to share at this time. But good for Sasha all turned out well. I'd say a nice pocket knife to slide between the ribs of any more attacking dogs.
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    Nuke 'em till they glow, and use 'em for a night light!
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    That's a scary story Vaughn. There's a pit bull in our little neighborhood that gets loose every once in a while. I've been afraid I'll run into him when I'm taking out the trash some night so I started carrying a mulch fork just in case. Been told there are only a couple of ways shy of a bullet to get them to turn lose-- fingers in their eyes or fingers up their butt. Think I'd try the eyes first

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    You should have taken the info and reported it. What if a human is it's next target?
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    I'd agree with Dan, that is a bad situation waiting to happen. I'm not against pit bulls, but obviously that one has some issues.

    Glad Sasha is ok, might pickup some pepper spray until the new gun comes.
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    Jon, my back's OK, but my neck was pretty tight from the tension that night. Sasha was real tender and sore Wednesday, but by Thursday evening, she was pretty much back to her normal self. To answer your other concern, stun guns work on a localized area...the shock doesn't travel to anything (or anyone) touching the shockee. I've seen a demo done by a friend of mine where there were two guys holding up the test "victim" by the bare arms. My friend gave him a shot in the chest with the stun gun, and the victim went down so hard and fast that he pulled the other two guys down to the wrestling mat with him, but they didn't get shocked. And a stun gun is more immediate (yet less damaging) than the pocket knife.

    Ted, since this happened I've read the same thing about gouging the eyes or the backside, although apparently that can also cause the dog to turn and attack you instead of your dog. I'd rather go the night light approach that Dan M mentioned. The initial shock from a stun gun causes the muscles to become uncontrollable, and after 3 to 5 seconds, it ends up turning the blood sugars into lactic acid, causing the shockee to collapse and have no strength for 5 to 15 minutes. I've had a couple people suggest pepper spray, but that would likely hit my dog as well in this type of situation.

    Dan G, you're right...I probably should have reported it, although I did kind of feel sorry for the guy with the dog, since it wasn't even his dog. The guys son had only recently gotten the dog, much to the dad's chagrin. I suspect the dad learned a valuable lesson, though. I'm also pretty sure he'll pass the lesson on to his son. I've met some pit bulls that were well-behaved, but I also think anyone who owns one needs to never let their guard down. I grew up in a household with very friendly dobermans that thought they were lap dogs, but in public we still treated them as potentially dangerous animals.
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    Vaughn,
    Good thing you or Sasha weren't really hurt. I think you got the best aNSWER A STUN GUN WOULD BE PERFECT.

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    A similar incident happened to me many years ago. It was pretty scary. The stun gun is a good idea. Sounds like this guy has learned a lesson and will keep the dog on the leash.
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    Glad all seems to be OK Vaughn.

    A similar situation occurred to me about 20 years ago in Garden Grove, CA. A pit bull attacked another dog at my business. The pit bull wouldn't let go after it's owner and others had tried several things to get it to break it's grip. I took the oppotunity to plant my foot between it's hind legs into it's private areas. That did the trick much like it would to you or I. It took the pit bull a couple of minutes to want to even walk and it had no interest in attacking anything while it was around me.

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