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Thread: Got Clipped by a Van but I'm fine....

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    Got Clipped by a Van but I'm fine....

    Today on my ride around the palace I got clipped by the mirror of a van.

    Here is where it happened....

    ... at about 9:15AM this morning.

    I was doing maybe 27Km/h this guy went by me very fast, and his mirror clipped my arm, not much of a hit, but it did make contact.


    The van, with the company name and phone number I also found their address etc.


    Van's license plate

    You can see the mirror on the side of the van is not very big, so if that hit my arm, you can imagine how close the guy came to hitting me, scared the pooh out of me I can tell you. I happened just at the apex of the corner, I was maybe 1 meter from the curb, I know this is a bad spot, many drivers clip this corner, so I don't, this usually makes them go around me, but this guy decided not to.
    At the next light I pulled up beside him, and I politely asked him to drive more carefully, as he almost knocked me from my bike. He made a rude gesture and then a dismissive one, and started to ignore me. I asked him if his delivery was more important than my life? Again rude gesture and then ignore, so I got out my iPhone and took some pictures, while doing this he was really angry, I thought he was going to get out of the van at one point. When I tried to take a picture of him, he hid his face like a coward....


    ... Then I told him I'd be contacting his boss. At this point he stopped being so rude and tried to ask for forgiveness, make the praying hands gesture, I told him that if he had started with a "Gomen" or sorry, that would have been fine, but as he was dismissive and rude, I'd not be in contact with his company. When the light turned green he quickly got out of dodge.

    Now I don't want to make a phone call, that is not worth much IMHO, I want to print out the four pics above and write down what happened in Japanese, and send it to the company by mail. I want to do this anonymously, because if the guy gets fired or something I don't want him coming back to me, don't need that kind of trouble. I look at it this way, six more inches to the left and I'd most likely be in a hospital or worse, if I had a company with drivers out doing deliveries with the name of my company on the door, I'd sure want to know if they were driving dangerously. If this was a one off thing and the guy was just having a bad day, then the penalty to him at work should be minor, but if this is the most recent of many complaints, then maybe he should be working in the storehouse not doing deliveries.

    Am I being unreasonable?

    Am I making too much of this?

    Thoughts...?
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    That's about what I would do. As you said, a 'sorry' right off the bat, could of meant something a little easier to over-look...glad your OK

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    He was rude and obnoxious as well as put your life in danger. I'd call the company ask for a CEO or equivalent that you have in Japan. Explain the ordeal. Then explain you have the pictures of the van and plate number and again the reaction of the driver. If they are going to do anything, maybe they will ask you to fax them to them or email them to them. Either way, bet this isn't his first go around with a bike, also doesn't sound like a very compassionate person. Make the call. I am so glad to hear you are okay. Inches, scary, it is the season of miracles!
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    Hi Stu,

    I am sure glad to hear that you are OK.

    Enjoy,

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    Glad you are OK. If the same thing happened to me I would probably be pretty angry but then just forget about it.
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    Thanks guys.
    My cycling friends here have encouraged me to report this guy to the cops, the fact that his van touched me while in motion makes this a traffic incident, and that he fled the scene puts him in a bad spot, if I wanted to press charges. I understand that what will happen is I'll make the report, I'll include the pics I took as well, then the cops will go his place of work and inquire as to what happened. I'll ask that they keep my name out of it, I don't wish to press charges, but I do wish to make a point, and then if in a week this same guy actually hits someone, the prior incident will make sure he is dealt with strongly.
    Cheers!
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    I would press the charges Stu as his behavior following it warrents it in my opinion. Guys like that should be taken off the streets and if the last guy he hit ( assuming with his behavior that he has done it before) pressed charges then maybe he wouldn't have hit you. Next time who ever he hits may not be so lucky and if the guy flees the scene ( like he did with you) how will they catch him? You just happened to have the phone camera the next guy may not think of it. Just my opinion.
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    was there a bike lane? in our state they have them in places and vehicles are not allowed in them.. if you were on the street then what are the regs for your area in that regards.. as for his actions ,, well not everyone has the proper etiquette as some of the rest of us..just consider the source. glad you didnt suffer any physical injury..
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    No bike lanes, just about zero, I think something like 0.001% of roads in Japan have bike lanes, it is a joke. Recently they changed the laws forcing cyclists off the sidewalks, and the carnage is up, big surprise....
    I'm going to talk to the cops tomorrow, the rules and laws here are not the same as in Canada or the US, so just remember that.

    Cheers!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart Ablett View Post
    the rules and laws here are not the same as in Canada or the US, so just remember that.
    That is one reason why I didn't reply right when I read this. You are there, you know the culture and laws. it is hard for me to give you an answer to a question, when I don't know the area. Either way, I would be upset about being tagged.
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