Frameless Cabinets

Karl Brogger said:

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The last hinge I use is a goofy looking unit, I think it swings 170* and I used to use them on doors that had roll out trays. I've changed the way I do roll outs, and I really don't worry about it anymore.
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I didn't mention the 170 degree zero protrusion hinge since I don't use them any more either. They are huge (take lots of cabinet space), ugly, and expensive (5 times the cost of a regular hinge from my vendor), and I finally realized that if I shim the pull-out slide 1/8 inch on the hinge side, I can use a regular hinge. In practice, I use a piece of 1/4 inch plywood behind the slide, which is far less than 1/4 inch thick.

Obviously you understand how these work, as do I - I hope our discussion helps those following the thread.