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  1. #11
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    Hi guys (I guess that is not sexist since I didn't see any female posts),

    Rob: Main Panel to Sub-panel is 16 inches.

    Jim: No I do Not have two separate 30 amp breakers. They are tied together for their correct use.

    Each 220 v machine has its own dedicated breakers and line.

    Dust collector is 55 inches from the Main Panel. It is not in the sub-panel.

    All wiring runs are well within specs. No two pieces of big equipment run from the same breaker (of course they do run from the same Main).

    I have never tripped a breaker in the shop...Well, I lie a bit...I found out things happen fast when you drill into a Romex cable.

    Thanks for the interest and the concerns.

    Enjoy,

    JimB
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    Jim, take a ride up here to NH and loan me some of your energy please
    So mote it be,

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    Bob,

    You don't need me; you need Glenn. Just being around him gives you energy.

    To the rest of you: I will check and see what is the proper way to eliminate the 100 amp sub-panel main. However, kicking up to 50 amp breakers to feed the sub-panel would mean increasing the gauge of the wire from Main to Sub. That wire is now inside of the wall and stapled to studs at both ends. To add code size wire for 50 amp breakers in the Main would necessitate taking down a 4 x 8 plywood panel (which we just put up) or cutting one heck of a hole in it (difficult to patch without looking like heck). I think either of those tasks would require about the same time and effort and mess. My play time has been drastically curtailed lately. I need to create sawdust. Maybe later I will do the 50 amp bit.

    My maximum load at any one time would be DC (from house Main Panel), BS (from Sub-panel) and illumination (some from Main and some from Sub). Heating also comes from the house Main Panel.

    I would state, again, that I have never tripped a breaker except for my one time screw-up with the electric drill.

    Thanks again and Enjoy,

    JimB
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    Lots of nice work got done there Jim & Glenn.

    (I will stay out of the elect part.)
    If you don't take pride in your work, life get's pretty boring.

    Rule of thumb is if you donít know what tool to buy next, then you probably donít need it yet.

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    Looking good (also staying out of the electrical discussion ) The plywood walls really do sound pretty good. I can't do them at the current local what with fire code and all (attached garage) but if/when I move.. liking it.

    I do have to ask:
    • Whats going on at the base of that 18-900L? Looks... kind of interesting.
    • Is the green pipe above/beside the electrical box more DC connections? Curious whats going on there, looks like an interesting DC hookup

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ID:	66696Ryan,The green pipe is just an odd piece of SandD. It only shows because the rest of the DC system has been messed with so we could put up the paneling. The short green pipe just takes the DC airflow from the shop to the Outhouse where the Collector resides (gets the noise and exhaust air out of my shop).The interesting stuff at the base of the BS is just getting air out of the BS and into the Dust Collector container. I did a couple threads on that. It really works! I am amazed how well it works. I will post this and then I will go and look for the thread names for you. Glenn did the same thing for his Grizzly G0513 x2. Basically it adds up to months of use (he uses his a lot more than I do) and all dust to the collector except about 1/3 of a cup-full.

    Enjoy,

    JimB

    In pic 1 you can see the little black box like Glenn and I made. It sits right under the table where the blade comes thorugh. I did a thread on building it.

    Pic 2 pretty much shows the box. It fits around stuff under the table. The blade passes through it---sawdust is sucked off of the BS blade in a 2 1/2 inch flex (well you can bend it---but it stays in whatever shape you put it in---also smooth inside) which joins to a wye which goes to 4inch, around the base of the BS, then into the regular 6 inch DC system.

    pic 3 shows this system joining the regular BS outlet from the lower wheel compartment and merging with the four inch. The

    pics will make more sense if you look at the original thread (where the pics apparently vanished).

    Pic 4 shows it from another angle.

    Pic 5 shows the sawdust that was NOT picked up over a period of months.

    Pic 6 is another view of the system.

    I know that this is pretty Mickey Mouse. If you are really interested I can redo the so called tutorial

    Enjoy,

    JimB
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    Clear enough , I can certainly see how that helps keep the lower guides clean. It definitely does stack up down there sometimes

    Thanks for the follow up.

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    Goodness I can't get over all that unused virgin shop wall

    Must be nice to have all that space!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart Ablett View Post
    Goodness I can't get over all that unused virgin shop wall

    Must be nice to have all that space!
    Isn't that just awesome? However, I did not know it would cause mental stress. You know---Where do I place each item so it is handy and not in the way of another item. I really do not want to end up with a king size, messed-up-like-Mopsey, night mare. I have been there!

    Enjoy,

    JimB
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    Ryan,

    There is also a little brush, just below the table insert. It knocks the stuff off of the blade so the air blowing by can pick it up easily. There is also a zero clearance baffle down there to discourage sawdust from going on down instead of out.

    Enjoy,

    JimB
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