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    Quote Originally Posted by allen levine View Post
    ...look at those base cabinets. doesnt matter what I make for him, anything looks better than those.
    Man, you've got that right. He's definitely getting an upgrade.
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    Finally getting caught back up on your job. Looks great, you are doing a wonderful job on these.
    If you don't take pride in your work, life get's pretty boring.

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    alan b- the stove is directly right of the dishwasher.
    the original kitchen didnt have a dishwasher, and in order to make more room the sink would not have been centered under the window.
    thought about getting a smaller window and smaller sink, but I have around 2 inches space, so I built a simple plywood with external frame that we will attach with some L brackets and in back, and screws into the floor. I believe that will be enough to support the counter above the dishwasher. Just going to attach a spacer piece of cherry as front.
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    theres nutin like standing in a 86 degree room with 85% humidity, with a sore back, staining up a a whole bunch of doors.
    nothing like it. sometimes I wish I could play golf.
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    But if you played golf, you would be on Family Golf, and not here
    If you don't take pride in your work, life get's pretty boring.

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    I damaged one of the doors beyond sanding repair.
    I had a bit of an off cut on one of the raised panels,after the panel warped very slightly, but not bad enough to scrap.(humidity here has been 100% every night this past week or so)
    I had to trim a small bit off the edges, so this is a perfect job for my 3/4 inch shoulder plane.
    When the plane was dull, or I should say duller, it still cut fine.
    I recently sharpened it, and when I ran it up the edge of the panel, swoosh! since I dont use hand planes often, and not really at the point where Im totally confident with them, the plane went a bit inside and just sliced off a piece like butter. I didnt expect that, my planes never cut so easily.
    The cut was deep, so I tried to sand it out. After spending almost one hour just trying to sand out the line, I decided to go with the door, stain it, and when I build new doors for the new cabs, Ill just remake this door. I figured let me see how it will look stained up with poly, but already the stain isnt hiding it.
    Im glad its a small door, and wont cost me more than 2 bf of cherry.

    It wasnt my fault I figure. The plane just fits the grip so perfectly, I didnt expect a sharp blade to really slice through wood like that. I cant imagine what a really sharp blade would do.
    I just use norton stones and get what I think is a decent hone, makes a world of a difference even to someone like me who doesnt use hand tools often.
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    Quote Originally Posted by allen levine View Post
    ...The plane just fits the grip so perfectly, I didnt expect a sharp blade to really slice through wood like that. I cant imagine what a really sharp blade would do.
    I just use norton stones and get what I think is a decent hone, makes a world of a difference even to someone like me who doesnt use hand tools often.
    Welcome to the pleasurable side of working with planes. When you're used to sharp planes, and comfortable with using them, they're one of the most pleasurable and satisfying tools there is. A truly sharp one can/will take shavings so gossamer thin you can see through them.
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    I hope theres a few still looking, Id like some input from , well, everyone? pros, beginners, since its a visual thing.

    I want to cover the 12 inch tall soffit with cherry molding and panels.

    I need to see things and figure it out, since Ive never done anything like this before, so I cut down some ply and made a mock 12 inch soffit.

    Just to explain what youre looking at, Its the molding Im going to make to cover it all, along with the measurements.

    From the top of the cabinet frame, the soffit extends out approx 1-1 and 1/8 inch. I will cover that with 1/4 inch cherry ply, then as shown on my mock up, I will make a 1.5 inch crown.
    Ill attach 1/2 thick strips of ply to build out the soffit a bit above the lower crown, and attach my rails(really stiles turned sideways, no cope cuts on them). The raised panel will be 5 inch total if I use a 3 inch crown on top as I did here.

    My questions:

    being that a raised panel profile will just leave a middle strip on a 5 inch raised panel, should I leave just a flat panel up there(all the cab doors are raised)?
    Should I decrease the 2 and 7/16 width of the rails by an inch or so each, and make the panel 2 inches wider?

    Id appreciate some input or ideas.

    Im trying to keep it simple, and not having to make raised panels for up there, since there will be approx 15.5 feet to cover, will save me alot of backache and alot of time.

    Making molding is not easy for me, and Id rather keep that as simple as possible.

    The 3 inch top crown molding in this picture was a bad cut, but its close enough for me to use to experiment.

    Since I want the top crown to just cover the top edge of the top rail, Ill make the crown molding after I make all the rails,stiles and panels, and bottom crown to size it just right. Im winging it here.

    so take a look, I had my future nephew hold it up so you can see what it will look like from its real position heightwise.
    I wiped on some stain so I can get a better visual for myself.

    *all the pieces used here were off cuts or bad cuts, nothing was sanded, so it might look a bit rough with stain.
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    What if you lose the bottom 2-7/16" piece and on the upper one push it up behind the crown some more? Maybe only show about 1-1/4" of it?

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    yeah, recommended not only by you, and I think I need to reduce the width of the upper and bottom rail.
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