Rob Keeble
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I thought some of you "free citizens" would get a kick out of this ...
Today i have been trying to sort out a nusance i have had for 5 years.....yeah this has been going on for 5 years.
I got informed 5 years ago that i had been allocated a surplus from an old pension fund i once belonged to.
Yeah right all of $400 when i convert it.
But that could pay for a nice new tool of some sort. So rather than just write it off and forget it, i kick the ball around occasionaly and play the game of pushing the required paperwork onwards. I think by the time i am done if that ever happens i will have spent more than $400 on postage.
But for me this has become way more of a point of principle and boy i often wish i had never heard the words principles, values and honesty. I could really do with the assistance of the whole Avenger crew right now.
However the point of my posting is more to give ya all a bit of insight into why people leave some of the places they do. I lived with crime, violence and terrorism as well as many other issues for much of my life back in SA. Thats actually the easy part ....yeah it dont sound like it ...
But when it comes to dealing with bureaucracy thats what really kills me. Its a faceless body that imposes their will on others and this just rubs every little ounce of Johnny reb in me up the wrong way. The word mad just does not do justice to how mad these faceless bodies make me.
Hows this section for a restriction (taken from the manual on exchange control regulations) on your freedoms, basically you a prisoner if you have any money. BTW this has nothing to do with laundering or any other funding of illicit actions. This is simply for ordinary folk who decide they want to get out of dodge. Well dodge aint letting you take your pennies.
"After having been accorded the applicable emigration facilities the remaining South African assets of the emigrant must be brought under the physical control of the Authorised Dealer concerned. This action is to ensure that all capital accruing after date of emigration and the proceeds of any asset subsequently sold, are placed to the credit of a blocked account with the Authorised Dealer concerned. "
Basically you cannot move assets of any kind once they are recorded in a blocked account. Well you cannot move them when they not in a blocked account either.
Never mind the issue of getting approval to move to another country, you first according to them need to get permission to leave. I am waiting for the possie to come on down the highway
So if i want my $400 i gotta get me a blocked bank account to deposit it into and then it can be invested in the local economy but it aint gonna by me any tools in Canada.
You gotta love the way big brother bullys ordinary folk.
Now i wonder why some of these places dont see investment.
After 10 years of being in Canada i had forgotten all this nonsense but reading this manual again reminded me of what we used to go through to run a business exporting from South Africa. You want to try and expand your operation into a international one you need big bucks for the accounting support and paper work you gotta go through never mind just what it takes to be able to pay a supplier and woe betide you if that supplier happens to be a service like say paying for a exhibition space where there is no bill of lading coming back to prove you bought something. Oy Vey
Free at last .....thank you Canada.
Oh Allen if you see this , they even have a section catering for sending money to relatives in the event of a Bar Mitzvah or Wedding being held abroad. This might explain why few Jews are left in SA.
You would never think a country like this could be a major gold supplier or diamond supplier or be one of the worlds biggest platinum suppliers...i would hate to have to deal with all their paper work to sell their ware.
Apologies for the rant guys but dang we gotta appreciate just what we have here hard to do if you have no idea what is going on elsewhere.
Today i have been trying to sort out a nusance i have had for 5 years.....yeah this has been going on for 5 years.
I got informed 5 years ago that i had been allocated a surplus from an old pension fund i once belonged to.
Yeah right all of $400 when i convert it.
But that could pay for a nice new tool of some sort. So rather than just write it off and forget it, i kick the ball around occasionaly and play the game of pushing the required paperwork onwards. I think by the time i am done if that ever happens i will have spent more than $400 on postage.
But for me this has become way more of a point of principle and boy i often wish i had never heard the words principles, values and honesty. I could really do with the assistance of the whole Avenger crew right now.
However the point of my posting is more to give ya all a bit of insight into why people leave some of the places they do. I lived with crime, violence and terrorism as well as many other issues for much of my life back in SA. Thats actually the easy part ....yeah it dont sound like it ...
But when it comes to dealing with bureaucracy thats what really kills me. Its a faceless body that imposes their will on others and this just rubs every little ounce of Johnny reb in me up the wrong way. The word mad just does not do justice to how mad these faceless bodies make me.
Hows this section for a restriction (taken from the manual on exchange control regulations) on your freedoms, basically you a prisoner if you have any money. BTW this has nothing to do with laundering or any other funding of illicit actions. This is simply for ordinary folk who decide they want to get out of dodge. Well dodge aint letting you take your pennies.
"After having been accorded the applicable emigration facilities the remaining South African assets of the emigrant must be brought under the physical control of the Authorised Dealer concerned. This action is to ensure that all capital accruing after date of emigration and the proceeds of any asset subsequently sold, are placed to the credit of a blocked account with the Authorised Dealer concerned. "
Basically you cannot move assets of any kind once they are recorded in a blocked account. Well you cannot move them when they not in a blocked account either.
Never mind the issue of getting approval to move to another country, you first according to them need to get permission to leave. I am waiting for the possie to come on down the highway
So if i want my $400 i gotta get me a blocked bank account to deposit it into and then it can be invested in the local economy but it aint gonna by me any tools in Canada.
You gotta love the way big brother bullys ordinary folk.
Now i wonder why some of these places dont see investment.
After 10 years of being in Canada i had forgotten all this nonsense but reading this manual again reminded me of what we used to go through to run a business exporting from South Africa. You want to try and expand your operation into a international one you need big bucks for the accounting support and paper work you gotta go through never mind just what it takes to be able to pay a supplier and woe betide you if that supplier happens to be a service like say paying for a exhibition space where there is no bill of lading coming back to prove you bought something. Oy Vey
Free at last .....thank you Canada.
Oh Allen if you see this , they even have a section catering for sending money to relatives in the event of a Bar Mitzvah or Wedding being held abroad. This might explain why few Jews are left in SA.
You would never think a country like this could be a major gold supplier or diamond supplier or be one of the worlds biggest platinum suppliers...i would hate to have to deal with all their paper work to sell their ware.
Apologies for the rant guys but dang we gotta appreciate just what we have here hard to do if you have no idea what is going on elsewhere.