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    Why do lumber yards do this.....or am I the one that is crazy..

    Why do Lumber yards store kiln dried lumber outside in the weather and on un-level surfaces to boot.

    I went to pick up a couple pieces of 2x lumber today to use in my pick up bed. Went to a private high dollar yard and ordered and paid for my boards. Go out and pull into building 2 they say. So that's what I do and when the yard man comes up he says I need to back up and pull around back. I say why and he says this stuff is stored outside. I said no thanks I'll just go back inside and reverse the transaction. This is the same owner that had the walnut cabinet plywood stored right inside by the big doors and 30 sheets of it were ruined when they were at a different location.

    I figure if I am buying junk I might as well buy from the big box store.. This is a successful yard that has grown and seems to be thriving in these tough times...

    Am I nuts or are they..?

    I worked at a local yard back in Missouri back in the 60's for several years and we would have been fired if we would have done this. I have been in another the same Missouri small town several times the last few years and they don't store dried lumber outside. I even see it covered when it's being transported.. Maybe I am just getting to old and cranky...

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    That's too bad Garry. Even the outdoor ones that are in the yards around us usually have them under a lean-to structure to keep the sun and rain off.
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    i hear yu gary,, used work in one those places myself.. years ago.. under a roof would work but to be right outside if you got a couple under few on top you would have been alright if you use it up quick.. even if they say its kiln dried theses days its usually pushed threw fast and wont be real dry as it should be..
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    Well to be honest when I started there they had everything completely inside. When I came back after the Navy they had from downtown and the new yard had open fronty but had a large overhang on the front.

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    I delivered lumber for a big yard back in the late 70's. Pretty much all the dimensional lumber was stored outside. When it was delivered to the jobsite it was rolled off the truck and sat outside while the project was being built. Storing it outside seems like a common practice around here anyway
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    they dont have to use it after they get it to sell.
    I also love the policy of we pull the top boards off the rack, and thats what they sell you.
    (not me anymore, they only got away with that once, then they lost a good customer)
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    Our local yards act like they have just given up and rolled over to the big box stores. Out of stock is common. Trying to get attention to be waited on is an exercise in frustration. When they go under they will blame the big stores. The fault is theirs for not trying to compete at the most basic levels. I can't/won't waste my time driving around looking for something anymore. It is big store right off for me.
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    the big stores up here dont sell anything but maple and oak(hardwoods), and its sold by linear foot which makes it quite expensive.
    and every lumber yard within 15 miles of me has shut down.
    15 miles might sound like nothing, but when you live in one of the busiest cities on earth, 15 miles is equivelent to 100 miles in a rural area.
    It amazes me there are no more lumber yards selling a selection of hardwoods near me anymore.
    I guess theres simply no call for it, and taxes and rents are ridiculous.
    I would think some of the big box stores might want to stock more variety, since they certainly have the room, and staff, but not yet. probably never.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Fusco View Post
    Our local yards act like they have just given up and rolled over to the big box stores. Out of stock is common. Trying to get attention to be waited on is an exercise in frustration. When they go under they will blame the big stores. The fault is theirs for not trying to compete at the most basic levels. I can't/won't waste my time driving around looking for something anymore. It is big store right off for me.
    It's the same thing here Frank. I'd much rather give my money to the local hardware/lumber yard, but it's more times than not it'll be out of stock. I don't even mined paying a buck or two more for something there. The only reason I even try there first it that it's on the way and they have several older retired guys that really know their stuff and can usually cobble something together to make it work.

    I don't get lumber there ever. They must get the last stop before the burn pile stuff.

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    When HD opened here a number of years ago, I frequented it a lot. My first piece of furniture was built from that "sold by the linear foot oak". Then the quality of "stuff" sold at our local HD degraded. We have 2 local lumber yards. It's difficult to buy good quality hardwood at either lumber yard...a piece of oak of any size or quality is a maybe. One lumber yard is open 7-5 M-F and the other is open 7-6 M-S. The one lumber yard's hours pretty well eliminate the working stiff from buying from them since they close at 5 and aren't open on Saturday and Sunday. I have talked with the owner and he says he can't open on Saturday as he loses money by paying labor. Yet.....he lost my business because he wasn't open.

    30 miles north in Moscow, Idaho is a lumber yard open 6 days a week....they stock about 30 different types of hardwoods....... OR......I can drive to WallaWalla or Spokane, each about 110 miles away, where there are lumberyards with wide varieties of hardwoods. I have a special secret project that I am about to start. I will talk more about it in the very near future.

    I have an Ace Hardware store, where I buy a lot of "stuff". They are open 11 hours a day, 7 days a week.....they know me......always greet me......have a better selection of what I need than HD and though they are a little pricier, it's worth it.

    Small businesses have to learn to compete. A business exists to serve the needs of the customer and not just for the convenience of the business. If you aren't open when I am not at work.... if you are priced 50% higher than the big box store....if you don't have what I need or the quality I desire....... don't whine about the big box businesses.
    Last edited by Ken Fitzgerald; 05-16-2012 at 05:47 PM.
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