Shop Renovation: Ned's Shop gets a facelift: Relocation plans

[Darren Wright]

If you've got a local re-store, check for ceiling tiles and track, our local one had a big stack of all of it last time I was over there. Skinning the inside walls will be a good thing, has been great having the wall space on my shop.

[Bob Gibson]

If you've got a local re-store, check for ceiling tiles and track, our local one had a big stack of all of it last time I was over there. Skinning the inside walls will be a good thing, has been great having the wall space on my shop.

Great idea There is one not too far from me but I haven't been to it yet. I gotta check it out.

[Carol Reed]

FWIW, Ned...

I didn't have a workable shop until I learned that lumber storage and shop cannot occupy the same room. Now the shop is 24x36 and the lumber is stored in an enclosed trailer along side the building. The assembly area in the shop is where the car can be parked if needed. Not often. :

[Ned Bulken]

If you've got a local re-store, check for ceiling tiles and track, our local one had a big stack of all of it last time I was over there. Skinning the inside walls will be a good thing, has been great having the wall space on my shop.

I'll have to see what they have, google says there is one, but I'm not making a special trip right now (trying to keep trips to minimum at the moment)

FWIW, Ned...

I didn't have a workable shop until I learned that lumber storage and shop cannot occupy the same room. Now the shop is 24x36 and the lumber is stored in an enclosed trailer along side the building. The assembly area in the shop is where the car can be parked if needed. Not often. :

Carol,
I can see that, to a point. HOwever I've pretty well carved as much square footage out of the back yard as I am going to get. (Lori still doesn't like where I put the shop... If I could pick it up, rotate and move it about 30' she'd be much happier) SO, I'm going to shrink my storage to one corner of the shop, and will be parking a couple of mobile tools in front of it (jointer, planer, DC). I'm Seriously considering building a tansu style storage system to gain access to the loft which is 11' up in the air. I wouldn't need or want to make stairs all the way up there, just to about the 6 or 8' height. I do have the 'luxury' of a lot of vertical space in my shop, which makes the relatively cramped 240sf footprint seem much larger.

here's a shot of the end wall:


the doorway is 7' tall, the sill plate is 10' and there's about 4' above that...

Here's a view of the loft space, taken from outside the shop:

We currently have a bunch of light stuff up there... but I'd love to be able to use that loft for more than just long term storage.

[Ned Bulken]

Got the entire wall 'cleaned off' of racks, then backfilled all of the insulation into the corner (figuring that now was the time to insulate before I cover it with lumber).

I have 82" of space below the sheet goods rack. I figure that I can safely put only about 2' high worth of stacked lumber on these racks, so I spaced the shelves at 5' and then 3' (and then 'floor' (though I really figure that boxes or some such will wind up on the floor, or possibly some rolling bins for cut-offs etc..


Until I get around to building a short's bin, I've got to put them somewhere. To that end I'm going to hang about 4 pairs of arms at about 18" apart. I started just above eye level before my drill battery went south (need to pick up some new ones when I can). Decided I could post these pics before heading out and swapping for the other battery I had charging.

[Toni Ciuraneta]

Thanks for taking us with you in this ride, I'm sure that we all will benefit from your ideas and solutions. Refurbishing completely a shop is no easy task.

[Jeff Bower]

Looks like you have some sheetrock hanging around in that loft rack...can you use it on the walls or are they mostly bits and pieces? My dad put OSB on the first 4' to avoid dings and such and then sheetrock above. He has 10' ceilings and even without it mudded or painted it improved the lighting quite a bit.

[Ned Bulken]

Thanks for taking us with you in this ride, I'm sure that we all will benefit from your ideas and solutions. Refurbishing completely a shop is no easy task.

Toni, nice to be back in action, the past year has really been a trial, with virtually zero shop time. And this refit is just about required; I figure I would be moving nearly as much stuff out of my way to try and get anything done if I'd left it. Might as well do it 'right' or as close to that as I can manage with the funds and abilities I have.

Looks like you have some sheetrock hanging around in that loft rack...can you use it on the walls or are they mostly bits and pieces? My dad put OSB on the first 4' to avoid dings and such and then sheetrock above. He has 10' ceilings and even without it mudded or painted it improved the lighting quite a bit.

Jeff, that rock is earmarked for a bathroom reno once i get the shop habitable. It is mostly 'moisture resistant' rock. I think I'm going to be pretty good on the light factor in the long run. I figure the area under the loft is mostly going to be for storage and turning (if I leave my lathe stand where it sits now. I have pegboard on the 'west' wall already, and I have more up in the sheet goods rack. I'm at least a week away from being ready to do so, but I don't have any 'better' use for the pegboard, so I'll throw that up over the ply on the north wall (as well as finally install that window that is just sitting in the framed opening).

Back to today's progress.

First off, here's a long view showing the loft from roughly the SE corner of the shop.




the 'vertical stack of lumber is now on the rack almost as intended (I didn't have as much cherry long lumber as I thought.... or most of it went on the high storage racks already.



the lower level is 'all' maple:

and the upper is long cherry, plus mid length maple and other species (a bit of chocolate, some butternut, etc...)



the 'shorts' section didn't quite work as well as I thought... the 'shorts' were short-ish, and I'm trying to keep things out of the front half of the shop.



cherry on the upper level


Maple on the lower section:

[Garry Foster]

Ned I saw you say something about solar. I have used passive solar the last two years and it worked great the first year and not so great last winter. All I did was put a clear plastic sheet up in front of my south facing garage door. The difference was that last winter I had to buy more poly film and what I got was much more cloudy and it really cut down on the heating effect...


This is the single best resource I have found
http://www.builditsolar.com/index.htm


This project is what I tried to copy cheaply.
http://www.builditsolar.com/Projects...tor/garcol.htm

GArry

[Ned Bulken]

Ned I saw you say something about solar. I have used passive solar the last two years and it worked great the first year and not so great last winter. All I did was put a clear plastic sheet up in front of my south facing garage door. The difference was that last winter I had to buy more poly film and what I got was much more cloudy and it really cut down on the heating effect...


This is the single best resource I have found
http://www.builditsolar.com/index.htm


This project is what I tried to copy cheaply.
http://www.builditsolar.com/Projects...tor/garcol.htm

GArry

Garry
thanks those are already bookmarked on my computer. My plan is to hang two main 'banks' of vertical syphons similar to these:
Solar Barn/Workshop
except I'll be using something similar to this:
http://www.builditsolar.com/Projects...seTS/RobTS.htm

Basically I'm going to use OSB panels with 2x6 frames on them, punching two holes per panel through to the shop, one set on the South/Eastern corner (wrapping around), as well as a larger 'window' unit on the west side (figuring that every erg I get 'free' is worth building a collector for. My shop is Not ideally located to take best advantage of a true southern exposure, but I'll get what I can out of it. Worse comes to worst, I have my kero heater for the deepest cold days as well.

Another thing which I have Not done since building the shop is to tighten up the soffet areas, or to truly close off the door and eastern end of the building. Both of those are on my punch list as well. First I'll be revising the entrance, then over a weekend or two I'll be cutting soffet panels to fit, closing off most of the drafts I've had to deal with in the past.

Thanks though, I do appreciate the reminder. There was a BUNCH of new links on there, loads more than the last time I visited it!