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Thread: I have always said don't use the internet to conduct business.

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    I have always said don't use the internet to conduct business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bart Leetch View Post
    OUCH:soapbox: :soapbox: :soapbox: :soapbox:

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    That information could have been collected from non-Internet as well. According to my CC compnay, when my card was stolen, it happened in a restaraunt. They made an electronic copy in the back room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Meiser View Post
    That information could have been collected from non-Internet as well. According to my CC compnay, when my card was stolen, it happened in a restaraunt. They made an electronic copy in the back room.
    I agree with Matt...this is not necessarily the result of people doing business on the Internet. Info like a mother's maiden name or SS number is not the type of thing that one gets asked during a typical Internet sales transaction. This info was hacked from some other source, most likely a bank or government office. I'd bet it has nothing to do with the people listed having done business over the 'Net.
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    It's still scary!

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    The CC companies will not tell you this, but the number one place that card numbers get ripped off is restaurants, or at least that was the conclusion of an undercover TV crew's report that they conducted here in Tokyo for 3 months.

    Think about it, when you go to the gas station and pay with a CC, the clerk swipes the card in front of you, and hands you your card back, same in the clothing store, Department store etc, but at a restaurants, you give them the card, they walked away from your table, go behind a counter and swipe your card, out of site. A card info catching device is about the size of a pack of smokes, it runs on batteries, and can hold up to 100 cards worth of info on it.

    Nothing against restaurants or the staff there, the vast majority of them are honest hardworking (VERY hard working, I bussed tables and worked as a waiter for a few years while at Uni) people, but, especially at peak times, when they are swamped, most restaurants will take on staff, with little or no background checks, I mean, the person is being hired for as a waiter, no need to call the FBI

    Even in a good restaurant, where only the head staff, salaried employees process the cards, the waiters can still easily get the card info. While the waiter is walking back to counter to give the card to the head waiter etc. to be processed, they have the card catcher device in their hand, under their tray, the swipe the card, and then had it to the head waiter, at some point they put the card catcher back in their pocket.

    it takes at least a couple of weeks for the theft of the info to show up, so the card thief works for a week or two at the restaurant, then quits. They use a phony name and address, and they get paid cash each night.

    I'd trust the internet, dealing with a known company, a lot further than I'd trust some part-time employee at a restaurant.

    Just my two yens worth! CASH!!

    I pay cash at restaurants, everywhere else, just about, I use my CC.
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    Stu, that is pretty much exactly what they say happened to mine. And the bank and I both think it happend in a national chain restaraunt (one where they grow "Olive"s in a "Garden" )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Meiser View Post
    Stu, that is pretty much exactly what they say happened to mine. And the bank and I both think it happend in a national chain restaraunt (one where they grow "Olive"s in a "Garden" )
    So...Outback Steakhouse, huh? Or was it Red Lobster?

    Years ago I was having a beer and talking to a guy who ran a car wash, and he strongly recommended not using credit or debit cards at car washes, since apparently card info theft is pretty common at those places, too. (At least in Los Angeles.)
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    CC's stolen.

    We had anonymous transactions popping up in New York. One for gas and as far as we know one in Walmart. We don't live in New York so we contacted the bank and sure enough someone had our number.

    My wife looks at me and says "What did you buy now?" thinking I purchased stuff and someone stole the number, but when the bank ran the numbers, it was her card that was heisted.

    As far as we can figure, it was taken when we ordered pizza for dinner one night.

    We did get our money back, however. The bank was VERY helpful.

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    I have a real good remedy for all of that mess.
    I tore up my credit cards 30 years ago.

    If I can't pay for it, put it on lay away or work out a deal with the business then I simply can't afford it. If I can't afford it, I can't have it!

    I haven't had to do without too much and I sure didn't make much money in the military. The idea of "I have to have a credit card for emergencies" is pure balderdash. I have been in many, many emergency situtations since I tore up my cards. I'm still here.

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