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    Shop Security

    I had noticed last week after it snowed that I had tire tracks up to my trailer which is parked on the side of my shop, but I hadn't been the one to back up there, luckily it's got a decent lock on the hitch. So outside of the monitored security system, I've been wanting to add some additional deterrents and more proactively capture any evidence I can in the event of an burglary. So I've picked up a couple of IP cameras, one of which will monitor the driveway and one inside the shop, will also be adding a couple more to monitor the front and back doors of the house as well as a few covering the back and side yards.

    Anyone here using any camera software with their home or shop security systems? I've been trying out iSpy, but not totally happy with the software. I'd like to have the email alerts, but don't want to pay for the service. It does allow the software to upload images to an ftp server automatically, so I could write a program to look for new images and notify me in the event of any. Would also love to hear of any reviews of cameras and specifically what makes/models anyone has. The one on the driveway is this one, but wondering if I should have gotten one with a little wider lens. That one is only 4mm, but have seen 6mm - 12 mm.

    I just got the cameras up last night, so still need to adjust the directions, may be relocating the one on the drive too over to the center of the shop to capture straight up the drive to get a better angle on the driveway for the house, can only capture part of it as it is now.

    This is the driveway cam view (I'm walking on the gravel, which looks green, the yard is to the left of me and can see the concrete drive for the house in the distant at the upper left).
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    This is the shop view, mounted on top of the office. I'm ordering another cam to capture a wider angle, may get the motorized one that will do automatic tracking instead. Yes it is a mess, been doing some re-organizing.
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    Was hoping to get a better driveway pic this morning, but I think the pc I'm testing on was restarted last night after auto updates, which will be disabled tonight.
    Last edited by Darren Wright; 01-08-2013 at 06:36 PM.
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    well you hurry up and find out what works darren because that was to close..and i wish i had what your showing now at least..but i think charlie would be the main star of the filming will be watching this for future refernce.. so does it continually stream? and how much puter you need to store it?
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    That is a close call. I will setup a game trail camera on my property at times to see who is coming up and down my driveway. Fortunately, nobody but the delivery guys ever drop by...
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    Quote Originally Posted by larry merlau View Post
    well you hurry up and find out what works darren because that was to close..and i wish i had what your showing now at least..but i think charlie would be the main star of the filming will be watching this for future refernce.. so does it continually stream? and how much puter you need to store it?
    The camera is continually streaming, but only if you're watching it. The ispy sotware looks for changes between frames, if it detects movement or changes in frames for more than a second it starts recording. It will record a buffer, so for a couple of seconds before the movement it will also capture on the video, then until it detects no more movement. The uploaded images will do the same until no more movement as well, but they are from frames about 1 second apart. Mine is setup at about 20 frames per second, but can set that to less for a smaller video file size. This is running on an old Pentium 4 computer with XP so doesn't take a lot of horse power for a couple of cameras, but will probably move it to the new shop computer when I add a few more cameras.
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    video surveillance equipment is so inexpensive these days, it pays to install a 4 or 8 camera system on all home/business shops.
    I have 4 hard wired cameras around my home, 3 showing access to and from garage/shop, one wireless mounted showing entrance in garage, and one in garage.
    The dvr records for around 2 weeks or so.
    I dont know if it prevents anyone from thinking about stealing, but at least Ill have a record of it when it happens, not only for police, but for insurance evidence.
    You can get an 8 camera dvr system for approx 4-6 hundred bucks. Then you just need a computer monitor.
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    I've been considering a camera to monitor the parking lot at my apartment. It would need to be on a wireless connection. How are the wireless cameras powered? I'm assuming it's a battery. If so, what's expected the battery life?
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    Quote Originally Posted by allen levine View Post
    video surveillance equipment is so inexpensive these days, it pays to install a 4 or 8 camera system on all home/business shops.
    I have 4 hard wired cameras around my home, 3 showing access to and from garage/shop, one wireless mounted showing entrance in garage, and one in garage.
    The dvr records for around 2 weeks or so.
    I dont know if it prevents anyone from thinking about stealing, but at least Ill have a record of it when it happens, not only for police, but for insurance evidence.
    You can get an 8 camera dvr system for approx 4-6 hundred bucks. Then you just need a computer monitor.
    Here's a simple 4 camera system that can record for 15 days continous. 300 smackers from costco.

    http://www.costco.com/Swann-8-Channe...100028117.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaughn McMillan View Post
    I've been considering a camera to monitor the parking lot at my apartment. It would need to be on a wireless connection. How are the wireless cameras powered? I'm assuming it's a battery. If so, what's expected the battery life?
    I've got a couple of 'wireless' PTZ cameras I just play around with. The only wireless part is the IP connection. They have a little wall wart that supplies power.

    One of my many unfinished projects was to make a completely wireless one with a solar panel and a car battery, but that's another story altogether.
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    I like video surveillance, it seems like a great deterrent, if your snoops know you have it.
    I'm curious though, if anyone has successfully used the video record to help police or insurance investigators apprehend any perpetrators. Don't they just say, "yup, that sure looks like a kid in a black hoodie running away with your stuff" ?
    With all respect Darren, I'd have a hard time to identify you in the outdoor screen capture you showed. Is it clearer live?

    The new 120lb Rottweiller/Mastif is showing some promise in the deterrence department here, but he eats a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Rideout View Post
    The new 120lb Rottweiller/Mastif is showing some promise in the deterrence department here, but he eats a lot.
    Stop feeding him so much and he will be even more of a deterrence. Of course to keep him healthy you might need to entice some thieves food with an open display of items worth stealing.
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