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Thread: 50! Who knew?

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Inside the Beltway

    50! Who knew?

    Hey, folks,

    Well, I'm 50 today, and this is very odd! I did not crumble into a pile of dust at the stroke of midnight! Unbelieveable!

    Doorlink, of course, is of the belief that it will happen at midnight tonight. She has her broom and dustpan at the ready!

    On the outside chance that that won't happen, I've done yet another crazy thing. Just back from buying 30 2x4s and 4 2x6s.

    Why, you ask? Well, I prevailed upon Doorlink to let me order the lathe . It seems like an awful lot of lathe for the money. I went to harbor freight yesterday to look at theirs, but by that time I pretty much had my heart set on the 462. I *did* pick up their lathe chisels, though. Anyway, I figure the griz is really a clone of something else, but I haven't been able to figure out what. The yorkcraft jointer I have is obviously from the same factory as the delta that costs twice as much, but could the griz really be the same machine as a $2000 jet 1642 lathe? Only real difference I can see is that the jet has one lower gear (min speed 450 vs. the griz's min 600).
    Maybe I'm missing something, and it's actually the clone of something else, but it looks close. I know there's someone here who has advocated for this machine, and that makes me feel a little better.

    Only 2 real problems I can see with the griz (besides that the horsepower rating is certainly exaggerated). First, that minimum speed. Seems like it's pretty high for a very large turning. I guess that's a problem I'll have to live with.

    The second? I suppose cast iron legs are a good thing? Better than the alternative, I suppose. But why does everyone make lathe stands, meant to decrease vibration, out of metal??? It seems really odd to me. Wouldn't you want something that would tend to dampen vibration, instead of transfering it (to, say, the floor, and thus to the building)?

    Hence the big stack of 2x4s. I'm planning on making a stand very like a workbench (joint and plane the 2x4s, and glue em up so I've got something 26" wide, cut and mortise the 2x6s together into legs so I've got a very rigid stand. Does this sound to you like the dumbest idea in all of christendom? It seems rational to me, but then again I'm old, and maybe my mind is already going?



  2. #2
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    oswego county , upstate n.y.
    hi bill

    happy birthday !!!!
    what are you building today ??


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    Don Taylor is offline Former Member (by the member's request)
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    I wish I was 50!

    Happy birthday Bill!


  4. #4
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Placitas, NM in the foothills of the Sandia Mt
    Happy Birthday Bill,
    Hey 50's are great, most of us are just hitting their stride then! Enjoy that lathe!

    Jess, in his "extreme late fifties"
    Don't believe everything you think!

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    33.8736N, 117.7627W
    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Lantry View Post
    Well, I'm 50 today, and this is very odd! I did not crumble into a pile of dust at the stroke of midnight!
    That actually doesn't happen until you're 55. DAMHIKT.
    Where are we going? And what am I doing in this handbasket?

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Mountain Home, Arkansas
    Congratulations child. You were born the same year I graduated from high school. And, one does not crumble into dust at 50. One gets 'old' when one decides to. As for lathes, the horsepower rating on that Griz has been the topic of discussion elsewhere. One thing that is for sure, there are many ways to calculate horsepower with electric motors. Grizzly stands behind the 2 hp rating. But, I agree it runs too fast for bowl work. More money, but check out the 0632:
    Early reports are that it is identical to the Jet 1642, or the Jet is identical to it, whatever. Except the Jet runs on 110V and the Griz is a 220V jobbie. I've got my sights set on the Griz for my upgrade as soon as budget permits.

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    ABQ NM
    Happy Birthday, Bill! I'll bet you're a lot younger than 50-year-old men were back when you were 20. I know I am. (I'm in the last few months of my 40's.)

    Regarding the lathe, looks like the vortex has sucked another person in. (It's always nice to add a new turner to the fold.) The 600 RPM low speed is a bit fast for roughing out big off-balance pieces, but I'm guessing you'll get plenty of miles out of it before you feel compelled to upgrade. Congrats on the new toy-to-be.
    When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. - Hunter S. Thompson
    When the weird get going, they start their own forum. - Vaughn McMillan

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Southern Georgia
    Happy b-day Bill!

    I too recently joined the ranks of the 'over-50' crowd...and I'm still cranking away.

    Here's to both of us still doing it for MANY years to come!

    - Marty -

    P.S. Congrats on the new lathe. Although it's all downhill once that vortex gets hold of you!
    Fivebraids, Inc.
    When you earnestly believe you can compensate for a lack of skill by doubling your efforts, there’s no end to what you can’t do…

  9. #9
    Happy 50th!!!!! 50 more years of woodworking ahead


  10. #10
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Tokyo Japan
    Happy Birthday Bill!!

    50 eh? Well, I'm just a little over a half decade behind you, and the thought of all that dust does scare me a bit, man, that would be a LARGE pile of dust, in my case ....

    Abbout the lathe, some advice, if you do not mind.

    Build it as an "A" frame, this is very stable and very stout.

    DON'T put a flat table top beneath it, you will be constantly cleaning chips out of the ways, if you do this, and with anything green (meaning wet, NOT Grizzly) they will rust your cast iron ways of you lathe, DAMHIKT

    For vibration damping, put 5 or 6 #40 bags of dry sand on a low shelf on the base of the "A" frame stand, that will do you for sure.

    Just my two yen's worth!

    Cheers --- the birthday kind!
    The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.
    William Arthur Ward

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