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    Hide Glue

    Guess this is the right place for this post.

    I would like to know if anyone here is a user of hide glue crystals and if so what do you use for a glue pot. I know of the one available from Tools for Working Wood.

    Any other alternatives?

    Does anyone know if a baby bottle warmer will do the job ? Its been many many years since I last had to warm baby bottles and my recollection is that its not hot enough but I may be wrong.

    I got an eye on one online sales for peanuts so wondering if its going to be worth it. Willing to experiment just don't want to waste my time if its a bust to begin with.

    Thanks for all input. P>S I also know of the liquid hide glue and that's not what I want to try out. Thank you anyway if you were thinking this.
    cheers

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    Sticker shock for an "official" glue pot led me to seek alternatives. The item I found that works just fine is a Rival Crockette that cost about $9 at WallyWorld. It has only one temperature that just happens to be about where hide glue should be maintained. I put about a pint of water in it, mix my hide glue and water in a one pint, straight-sided wide-mouth Ball jar and place it in the crockette. I add water to the crockette to keep it about halfway up the jar and keep a lid on the jar loosely until ready to use. In cold weather, I have also made a cover for the crockette with a hole the size of the jar, so it holds the heat in. Sometimes, frugal (cheap) works!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Arnold View Post
    Sticker shock for an "official" glue pot led me to seek alternatives. The item I found that works just fine is a Rival Crockette that cost about $9 at WallyWorld. It has only one temperature that just happens to be about where hide glue should be maintained...
    I also use a Rival appliance, but mine is a 'hot pot' pitcher that has an adjustable thermostat. At near the lowest setting, it'll keep the glue at a near perfect 140F. It's all plastic, and I cut a hole in the top so I can just drop a glue jar through the hole, and leave the lid on the pot (less chance of spillage). Mine was also under ten bucks at Wallyworld.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Arnold View Post
    Rival Crockette that cost about $9 at WallyWorld.
    $1.75 at the habitat store, surprisingly goodwill and salvation army didn't have any when I looked but I'd bet in about ~3-4 months they will when people start moving through all the unwanted christmas gifts.

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    Why do you want to hide it? Oh, er...
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    Yup you guys think like I do.

    @ $179 http://www.toolsforworkingwood.com/s.../MS-GLUEPOT.XX I think this is an enormous deterrent to having people try hide glue.

    So here are some of what I came up with besides my bottle warmer on Kijji for $7

    The dental industry uses wax so something like this from China for $39 free shipping (can you believe it) http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-3-Well-A...t_10000wt_1251

    This even has three compartments and temp control

    or

    Old school cast iron
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/CAST-IRON-ME...#ht_720wt_1014

    or

    Salon wax boiler from Florida with temp control for $39 but for me shipping kills it. $32
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Professional...1f00b#shpCntId
    or

    Solder pot but temp is wrong so would need modification
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/150W-Tempera...ht_4972wt_1251


    Lots to chose from. I like the idea of the dental one. It provides more than one pot for different glue strengths.

    Will take a look at our charity places later in the week and see whats on offer. Before I pull the trigger.

    But it sure makes a mockery of the fancy copper pot at $179.


    While I am at it here is short article by Lee Valley on Hide Glue for those interested.

    http://www.leevalley.com/us/newslett...6/article2.htm
    cheers

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    A man in our woodworking club in Florida used a single element hot plate and an old sauce pan to heat the water - added the glue granules and water mix to a pickle jar and put in the the warm water - kept an eye on the temperature with a meat thermometer. He paid $2 for the hot plate at Goodwill, swiped the sauce pan from his kitchen. In other words, you can spend what you want.

    Currently, if I were looking for a new crock pot for this application, Amazon has this one. I've had no problem maintaining the temperature of the hide glue at 135 to 140 with the one I described earlier, but this PS has three heat settings.

    Edit: I should add that I use a meat thermometer to keep an eye on the water temperature. I use a piece of wire to keep the end of the thermometer in the water not touching the sides of the pot or the glue jar.
    Last edited by Bill Arnold; 11-06-2013 at 05:50 PM. Reason: Add comment about water temp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Keeble View Post
    ...I like the idea of the dental one. It provides more than one pot for different glue strengths...
    OK Rob, I know this isn't the first time you've been accused of overthinking something, but I've gotta ask. When was the last time you thought "Man, I sure wish I had three different strengths of Titebond"?

    Also, you seem to be gravitating toward solutions that are three times the price you need to spend.

    http://www.walmart.com/ip/14504126?w...ctedSellerId=3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Keeble View Post
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    Does anyone know if a baby bottle warmer will do the job ? Its been many many years since I last had to warm baby bottles and my recollection is that its not hot enough but I may be wrong....
    I had looked long and hard for a baby bottle warmer as the hide glue warmer recommended by some expert users (at least to keep it warm enough, whether it is enough to do the initial warming or not). By the time I looked, nobody used real bottles nor warmers, so the warmers were not available even at the thrift stores.

    $10 for various other types of pots sounds like the way to go.
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    Well I got my "Glue Pot" for all of $11.27 including our hst at Wallyworld (walmart) .Click image for larger version. 

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ID:	79170 To show scale I put one of Macks pens in it gives and idea of how wide it is.

    Of course when the SWIMBO saw it she thought it was for her so now she wants me to get another.

    All I have to do is cut a nice round disc of wood for the top and pop a access hole in it. Will use my bandsaw circle jig and expedite that matter.

    By the way if one wants glue brushes for this then Lee Valley has these nice cheap hogs hair bristle brushes for $4.80 for pack of 10 1/2 inch brush.

    And while I am at it this is the glue if anyone out there wants to try it out.
    http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/pag...10,42965,20002


    And here is a video of how to apply and use the glue in doing veneer work by a master in the craft.

    Ok and you now need a hammer so why not make one like this ...


    So what you waiting for you now can be all set to do hammer veneering (really the wrong terminology actually) for very few dollars.


    Just have to resolve the cutting of the veneer.
    cheers

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