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    Got to say something.....

    Now that life seems to be getting a bit more crazy, family care and thoughtfulness come to the forefront of my life. In all aspects of life not just personal but the places we visit , with the people we know or I know , I don't want to lump anyone into my rants, but but even on forums where we have a good family cohesion of unity. So why, do people come in here with out introducing themselves , do not let PM be on their profile so you can chat a bit with them and want to know everything you know, that will take a lot of time to sit down and answer every question.
    Sorry I'm just not down with much lack of respect for all of us who have made this place so nice to gather.
    Last edited by Dave Hawksford; 03-06-2014 at 01:56 PM.
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    well dave, not everyone is like the majority of folks here, some are secretive of there where abouts or there personal life, we can suggest changes but nothing says they will, and if we choose to help if we can fine and if we choose not to well that is our choice as well and those that dont seem to give back either in thanks or other means are the ones that are loosing not the givers like you and others
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    Everyone is different. Some more out going than others. Some are very private. I really don't think they mean any disrespect by it.

    Well if we are in a ranting mood, the one I use to want to rant about is the few that come here just to show their work, but never contribute to any of the other discussions. Then one day I got to thinking, even though that is their way, I still benefit from it. I love to see their work and they usually do answer questions about what they are showing. So, now I am happy to see them post.
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    Doug I understand what your saying. If it were any of you asking a lot of questions I would jump right in ifI could help. One thing , because I know you appreciate it and would do the same. I've been burnt to many times helping others with out even a thank you. A ( THANK YOU ) sometimes is all it takes.
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    Yes there are a lot of people who enjoy reading the posts here and do not do any posting themselves. Maybe they have nothing to post about. Also the projects are so well done I would hate to compare what I accomplish. The fact is I have as of yet not mastered the photo inclusion for posting as noted by no aviatar. All in all I love this forum and visit daily just to see whats up. I must say this is the most gregarious bunch I have been associated with on the internet.
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    I hear what you're saying Dave.

    Maybe some folks just don't understand the protocols here or are intimidated because we are such a tight knit bunch of woodworkers.

    I really enjoy seeing new folks show up and participate but I'm a bit bewildered why so many take the time to post once then never return. But I do have to admit that I've done the same. I've logged onto 1 or 2 other woodworking sites over the years in order to get a specific question answered and have never gone back again.
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    I have been in opposition with Big Brother since way before the internet was a household word . I'm no hermit, there are just some times that you have to wonder why someone needs to know certain things in order to give you a quote on energy efficient windows or some other idle thing. Even so, I feel very comfortable in public or private discussions with the folks here. I do not discuss a lot of things about me and my life in any form online as there is a large nefarious element that crawls the web just looking for things (and you'd be surprised what they can be) to exploit. My best defense is that my life is inherently boring .

    Here's a fun example that is not the least bit paranoid if you work in the field I do; I announce online that I've had my first grandchild (trigger - a search into public records), I also let it slip that me and the missus are going to hop in the RV and toodle over a state or two to visit the bundle of joy (trigger - guess who's not going to be home for a few days?). Or this one - I have a Harvest Festival bumper sticker on my car (trigger - guess where I am likely to be the next time the Harvest Festival comes to town?) -or- I have an NRA sticker or a rifle rack in/on my car (trigger - guess who probably has some guns to steal in their home and is probably gone to the local gun show right now?). Cry paranoia if you will but these are valid intelligence offerings that evil-doers use to assure their success. Talk to your local police, they'll back me up

    As Larry points out, not everyone is as similar to the lion's share of active members here as we are. Have you ever stopped back in at one of those forums you use to tolerate. I dropped into one the other day and it has completely degenerated; foul language, personal attacks and all that garbage. I prefer my family .
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    To add some more insight as to why some dont post as we might think necessary, here is a true story and it dealt with a prominent member here, they were in the middle of a divorce and the prosecutor for the lady had pictures and screen shots of posts here with me in them, and was using those against the guy in the custody battle. so they left and have not come back,, so as glenn says, there are those out there that dont play by the rules as we think just.. so we need to be a little compliant, as i grow older the things seem to be getting grayer than i would like, including my hair
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    First off Dave, THANK YOU. Thank you for being you. Thank you for sharing all of your artistic talents with us. I am not being condescending in the least nor sarcastic here. If I created this rant I want to clear the air before next week.
    I would imagine we are our own worst enemies for gathering in new members that are shy. Read a few threads, we know each other on some weird level. Hope things with your dad are going well and Shelly and the boys are well. Be good my friend.
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    I maybe see it from another perspective.

    I grew up in a family with some SERIOUS personality issues.
    In todays world of enlightenment - my father would have been in jail, for various reasons.
    My Mom not far behind.
    I think Child proctective services would have broken up the family.
    My younger sister died at 53 due to the way her life went.

    My family still suffers from the effects of "family issues" of the late 50's - through the 60's and near all of the 70's

    I was a VERY VERY introverted individual. There would have been no way to get me involved.
    If I would have been approached I would have "literally" cryed - KNOWING there was something wrong with me - and I would have left permanently.

    I consider myself to be of the FEW that found a way out.
    I went to high school then to college and ended up with a B.S. in engineering.
    ( At first I was totally accepting the fact that I was going to fail)
    The education helped a GREAT deal. I know we should not talk religion - but that was also a HUGE part.

    Ohhhh - I can see someone, like - ME - on the outside - looking in - wishing I could understand how to be in a nice friendly group - but being certain that I really do not fit in.
    I still have those feelings.

    I posted this a few weeks ago.
    Really it is not the forum - it is the personality of the individual.

    If I was back as I was and I read a post about lurkers - it would hurt me and I would just back away.

    Then - my spouse has a serious psychological ailment that has changed our lives.
    Learning to deal with that has been a life changing learning experience.

    Today - through nearly 40 years of learning I can be in public and - sometimes - sorta feel good - sometimes.
    Mostly - inside I still tremble.

    Even as I write this - I wonder if maybe I should NOT post is - because I will get repercussions from it.
    Sometimes I don't post - even after I wrote it up.

    For someone that is suffering with introversion - just stating your name is a terrifying feat - never mind participating in a conversation.

    To anyone that is reading, and lurking --- PLEASE - feel comfortable, you do NOT need to fill out any forms - you do NOT need to participate in conversation - you do NOT need to interact, you do NOT need to reveal anything about yourself. Please fell free to watch, have a soda or coffee. Be Comfortable.

    Dave - I can understand how you feel, but please be understanding that not all people have a strong enough personality to be able to participate. Lets try to be supportive of those in that situation. Most of them don't want to be there - but don't know how to get out. They are easily intimidated, not because they are feeble - but maybe because of what life has dealt them.

    Psychology is a little understood thing - but an all encompassing feature of our makeup.

    Sorry about this little rant - it is just how I am wired.

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