At least for the pork butt, the bone slipped right out, fell apart and was moist and tender.
I had a patient fan awaiting her treat, as always it fun to see her carrying around a bone the size of her head.
The brisket turned out good too, but had started with a new brand of pellets, which kept jamming up the feed and messing with my temps. Also was a sugar maple pellet, so didn't get much of a ring. This went into the fridge and will run it through the slicer tomorrow night.