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    Here's your sign!

    This is my next project, and it's a paying one! This is a lawn sign for a local financial advisor. He has secured the actual signs, painted metal, sign permits and dig line mark outs. I'll supply the construction and installation.

    The post is a full 6x6 cedar timber and the arms are nominal 4x4 cedar. I'm thinking about white oak for the sign frames. The arms will mortise into the post with 2 1/2" square tenons that are 1 3/4" deep. The chain is a substantial link and I'll use an angled hole at the end of the arm with a counter set nut to pull the slack out. If that's not clear sorry. The pictures will make it cleared than I can with words.

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    Congrats on the gig Rennie. Looks to be a fun project.
    Darren

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    Yep >
    The perception of perfection is perfectly clear to everyone else

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    ^^^^^^
    What they said!
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    This will be fun to follow.
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    One suggestion is that you NOT use concrete at the foot of the hole. The concrete is hard on the wood. If there is any wobble, the block of concrete will just make space around the block, which is then almost impossible to fix. Have you ever seen a telephone pole set in concrete?

    The best way to set a post (or a telephone pole) is by packing sand and gravel tightly around the pole, pounding it down every couple inches of fill. I recommend sand or gravel so that it doesn't shrink when it dries out. If you use rocks, avoid "river rock" - highly rounded - use the sharp edge rocks like used as ballast on railroad tracks (I worked on a track gang in my youth).

    I know lots of residential fence posts are set in concrete, since it is fast and easy, but I have also replaced too many fence posts that were "loose" in the ground, or that had rotted with the caustic cement.
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    Here's your sign!

    Hi Charlie,

    Actually I had made two drawings for the city one with the concrete footing and one in gravel and Packed earth. Just in case the city required concrete. Turns out, they do not.

    So, no worries, I will be putting it in packed earth not concrete. I agree with you that concrete is not the best way to go for a wood post.
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    Here's your sign!

    Got a late start today but was still able to accomplish more than I thought. I was able to complete all of the mortises and tenons for the sign. I decided to go deeper with the tenons for the arms and then miter the ends. This will give me more glue surface and a stronger tenon through which to drive a dowel pin.

    Here I have marked out the areas for the mortise.






    Here I switched to a larger bit to clean up the side walls a bit.


    All drilled out and ready for some chopping


    Next the tenons

    And a test fit

    The angled brace comes next

    Last edited by Rennie Heuer; 08-23-2014 at 09:41 PM.
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    very cool project Rennie!
    -Ned

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    Looks stout. Good. Trivent is good people. I preferred the original name.
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